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SWG  
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 More options 30 Oct, 17:41
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From: SWG <swisswatch...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:41:29 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri 30 Oct 2009 17:41
Subject: In Lincoln's watch: a mystery revealed! Is this his WM Ellery Waltham Watch?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101669761

Did you read that story? Who could Is this the famous Waltham WM
Ellery watch key wind watch Waltham Model 1857, serial number 67613,
(also?) now in the custody of the Smithsonian Museum he had received
upon the Gettysburg Address? Or is it effectively another make,
apparently of English provenience?

Appreciating your analyse (as you know, I am not a watchmaker).
Best regards
SWG


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 More options 30 Oct, 18:08
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From: "Jack Denver" <nunuv...@netscape.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:08:48 -0400
Local: Fri 30 Oct 2009 18:08
Subject: Re: In Lincoln's watch: a mystery revealed! Is this his WM Ellery Waltham Watch?
I dunno but I'd be pissed if my watchmaker wrote all over the dial side of
my watch like that.

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 More options 30 Oct, 19:46
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From: SWG <swisswatch...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:46:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri 30 Oct 2009 19:46
Subject: Re: In Lincoln's watch: a mystery revealed! Is this his WM Ellery Waltham Watch?
On Oct 30, 7:08 pm, "Jack Denver" <nunuv...@netscape.net> wrote:
> I dunno but I'd be pissed if my watchmaker wrote all over the dial side of
> my watch like that.

I imagine that the contents of the message would be of essence.

It did not impair the good working of the watch though and gave the
newspaper a good story. Imagine that in year 2159 a similar story
could be written about yours' ? What a nice topics for alt.horology!


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 More options 30 Oct, 19:49
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From: "Jack Denver" <nunuv...@netscape.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:49:02 -0400
Local: Fri 30 Oct 2009 19:49
Subject: Re: In Lincoln's watch: a mystery revealed! Is this his WM Ellery Waltham Watch?
No this was an English fuseee watch, not the Waltham.  He purchased this in
Springfield, Illinois in the early 1850s,  before the Waltham factory had
opened:

http://www.worthpoint.com/blog-entry/secret-message-etched-lincoln%E2...

Lincoln was a very sucessful lawyer - a watch of this quality and with an
engraved 18K case was not a cheap item.

This watch is at the Smithsonian in DC.

The Waltham, now in a museum in Kentucky (where he was born) was not
presented to Lincoln until much later (the Gettysburg Address was delivered
in Nov. 1863).

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/Moments06RS/24_web_leg_moments.htm

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 More options 30 Oct, 19:55
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From: "Jack Denver" <nunuv...@netscape.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:55:14 -0400
Local: Fri 30 Oct 2009 19:55
Subject: Re: In Lincoln's watch: a mystery revealed! Is this his WM Ellery Waltham Watch?
Of course in retrospect it forms an interesting historical snapshot.
Emotions were running very high, at a fever pitch  at that moment - it was
not the normal practice of watchmakers to scratch more than their names and
the date of service.  Still, I see it as unprofessional, then and now.  It
bothers me when I see for example sports columnists in the newspaper make
snide remarks about the President that have nothing to do with their job
(they did this more with Bush - Obama is (for now) their hero).

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On Oct 30, 7:08 pm, "Jack Denver" <nunuv...@netscape.net> wrote:
> I dunno but I'd be pissed if my watchmaker wrote all over the dial side of
> my watch like that.

I imagine that the contents of the message would be of essence.

It did not impair the good working of the watch though and gave the
newspaper a good story. Imagine that in year 2159 a similar story
could be written about yours' ? What a nice topics for alt.horology!


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 More options 31 Oct, 11:39
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From: SWG <swisswatch...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 04:39:52 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat 31 Oct 2009 11:39
Subject: Re: In Lincoln's watch: a mystery revealed! Is this his WM Ellery Waltham Watch?
On Oct 30, 8:49 pm, "Jack Denver" <nunuv...@netscape.net> wrote:

Appreciating your precision!

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