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Tony  
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 More options 7 Nov, 16:19
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From: Tony <tony.mik...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 11:19:51 -0500
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 16:19
Subject: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d
Again, this is a down flow furnace out of a mobile home.  Just noticed
it says "Sealed Combustion" and my insurance company said it's OK for me
to use it in my garage.  Down flow, so I'll weld a stand for it to sit
up off the floor about 8".

Question about flue exhaust and fresh air inlet.  This is an 80% unit
(I'm guessing 57K BTU's out divided by 70K BTU's in = 81%? )

Can this be used with the flue exhaust/air intake being terminated on an
outside wall similar to 90% units but metal, not PVC?  Or must this flue
go a certain number of feet higher than the roof?  Or something in
between the two?


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Bob F  
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 More options 7 Nov, 17:04
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From: "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 09:04:00 -0800
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d

Tony wrote:
> Again, this is a down flow furnace out of a mobile home.  Just noticed
> it says "Sealed Combustion" and my insurance company said it's OK for
> me to use it in my garage.  Down flow, so I'll weld a stand for it to
> sit up off the floor about 8".

> Question about flue exhaust and fresh air inlet.  This is an 80% unit
> (I'm guessing 57K BTU's out divided by 70K BTU's in = 81%? )

> Can this be used with the flue exhaust/air intake being terminated on
> an outside wall similar to 90% units but metal, not PVC?  Or must
> this flue go a certain number of feet higher than the roof?  Or
> something in between the two?

Best bet. Contact the manufacturer to get a copy of the installation manual for
that furnace.

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 More options 7 Nov, 18:57
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From: Joe <jbob...@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:57:47 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 18:57
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d
On Nov 7, 10:19 am, Tony <tony.mik...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Again, this is a down flow furnace out of a mobile home.  Just noticed
> it says "Sealed Combustion" and my insurance company said it's OK for me
> to use it in my garage.  Down flow, so I'll weld a stand for it to sit
> up off the floor about 8".

> Question about flue exhaust and fresh air inlet.  This is an 80% unit
> (I'm guessing 57K BTU's out divided by 70K BTU's in = 81%? )

> Can this be used with the flue exhaust/air intake being terminated on an
> outside wall similar to 90% units but metal, not PVC?  Or must this flue
> go a certain number of feet higher than the roof?  Or something in
> between the two?

What does your building code require? A code compliant installation
will make your insurance company happy.

Joe


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Tony  
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 More options 7 Nov, 19:28
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From: Tony <tony.mik...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:28:13 -0500
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 19:28
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d

I forgot to mention there is _NO_ building code where I live.  We have
septic and electrical codes/inspection but no building code.

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 More options 7 Nov, 19:30
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From: Tony <tony.mik...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:30:36 -0500
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 19:30
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d

I've been trying to do that with no success.

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 More options 7 Nov, 21:06
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From: "Lefty" <dbcampb...@centurytel.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:06:29 -0500
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 21:06
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d

"Tony" <tony.mik...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Again, this is a down flow furnace out of a mobile home.  Just noticed it
> says "Sealed Combustion" and my insurance company said it's OK for me to
> use it in my garage.  Down flow, so I'll weld a stand for it to sit up off
> the floor about 8".

> Question about flue exhaust and fresh air inlet.  This is an 80% unit (I'm
> guessing 57K BTU's out divided by 70K BTU's in = 81%? )

> Can this be used with the flue exhaust/air intake being terminated on an
> outside wall similar to 90% units but metal, not PVC?  Or must this flue
> go a certain number of feet higher than the roof?  Or something in between
> the two?

Normally mobile home means "direct vent" with sealed combustion.  This means
a specialized vertical vent termination would be the only one you could use.
I see manuals you can "buy" online; such as this one;

http://www.hvacmanuals.com/detailed_manual.php?manuals_id=34

but I would think that there would something in the way of "free" from the
mfg. somewhere.

You may want to try these folks, because they surely know all about that
unit;

http://www.stylecrestproducts.com/htdocs/contact.cfm

You may have to call or e-mail, but I'm not sure they will help an
individual for retail sale, as they are wholesale suppliers to the mobile
home industry.

If you are going to have to wing-it all alone, you may want to try a gas
fireplace vent kit and termination.  But that may be quite risky, both for
safety and functionality.

HTH, Lefty


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 More options 7 Nov, 21:10
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From: "Lefty" <dbcampb...@centurytel.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:10:15 -0500
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 21:10
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d

"Lefty" <dbcampb...@centurytel.net> wrote in message

news:MuednSn_j5GzfGjXnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@centurytel.net...

This may give you a little more insight;

http://www.stylecrestproducts.com/htdocs/pdf_catalog/09_HeatAir09.pdf

HTH, Lefty


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 More options 7 Nov, 21:55
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From: "Lefty" <dbcampb...@centurytel.net>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:55:28 -0500
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 21:55
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d

"Lefty" <dbcampb...@centurytel.net> wrote in message

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Sorry the link did'nt work right.  You'll have to look for page number 61

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 More options 7 Nov, 22:20
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From: "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:20:59 -0800
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 22:20
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d

Have you tried the phone # on http://www.colemanac.com/site_map.asp?

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 More options 7 Nov, 22:22
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From: "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:22:09 -0800
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Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d

If no help there, try dealers or better, distributers.

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:50:05 -0500
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 03:50
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d
When I had something similar in my trailer (80 percenter)
the flue gas went up through the roof, and then six inches
or so more. Thre was assembly up there to keep the rain out.

I'd suggest a similar set up. I used indoor air for the
combustion. There was a bit of a hole in the floor, so it
drew air from under the trailer for the combustion.

Of course, the manufacturer is a good idea. But, it sounds
reasonable. Flue gasses too hot for PVC. Needs metal, but
you wrote that below.

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"Tony" <tony.mik...@gmail.com> wrote in message

news:7lll19F3ecksrU1@mid.individual.net...
Again, this is a down flow furnace out of a mobile home.
Just noticed
it says "Sealed Combustion" and my insurance company said
it's OK for me
to use it in my garage.  Down flow, so I'll weld a stand for
it to sit
up off the floor about 8".

Question about flue exhaust and fresh air inlet.  This is an
80% unit
(I'm guessing 57K BTU's out divided by 70K BTU's in = 81%? )

Can this be used with the flue exhaust/air intake being
terminated on an
outside wall similar to 90% units but metal, not PVC?  Or
must this flue
go a certain number of feet higher than the roof?  Or
something in
between the two?


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 More options 8 Nov, 16:40
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From: Tony <tony.mik...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:40:47 -0500
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 16:40
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d

Thanks.  I tried one number but couldn't get through.  Try again on Monday.

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 More options 8 Nov, 16:46
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From: Tony <tony.mik...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 11:46:50 -0500
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 16:46
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d

Stormin Mormon wrote:
> When I had something similar in my trailer (80 percenter)
> the flue gas went up through the roof, and then six inches
> or so more. Thre was assembly up there to keep the rain out.

> I'd suggest a similar set up. I used indoor air for the
> combustion. There was a bit of a hole in the floor, so it
> drew air from under the trailer for the combustion.

Only problem is that it will be going 16' straight up, most of it
through the unfinished attic and then not sure how far above the roof.
And I hate putting holes in my new steel roof!

> Of course, the manufacturer is a good idea. But, it sounds
> reasonable. Flue gasses too hot for PVC. Needs metal, but
> you wrote that below.

If I have a chance I'll try again on Monday.

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 More options 8 Nov, 17:02
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From: Tony <tony.mik...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:02:27 -0500
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 17:02
Subject: Re: More gas furnace questions Coleman Model 7970-656/d

Dang, for $15 I'd be happy to buy a manual, but mine isn't offered.
Figures.

I forgot to mention before that there is a blower for the combustion
air.  It's before the combustion, not sure if that is still called a
"power vent" or not.  Either way, with the blower it's not as if it
needs to rely on a great natural draft.


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