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CWLee  
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From: "CWLee" <cdubya...@post.harvard.edu>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:57:06 -0800
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 23:57
Subject: Render DVDs Unusable?

I have a number of DVDs containing
computer backup information of a
sensitive nature.  I plan to throw away
the older ones, but first I want to
render the data on them irretrievable.
Can anyone here recommend a quick,
cheap, easy way to do that?  I've heard
that drilling 2 or 3 1/4" holes in them
does the trick, but that is just a rumor
to me.  What about placing them, one at
a time, in a vice, half clamped tight
and the other half then struck hard with
a hammer - hoping to break it in half?

Suggestions and experience reports
appreciated.

--
----------
CWLee
Former slayer of dragons; practice now
limited to sacred
cows.  Believing we should hire for
quality, not quotas, and
promote for performance, not
preferences.


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Tony Hwang  
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From: Tony Hwang <drago...@shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:15:13 -0700
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?
CWLee wrote:

> I have a number of DVDs containing computer backup information of a
> sensitive nature. I plan to throw away the older ones, but first I want
> to render the data on them irretrievable. Can anyone here recommend a
> quick, cheap, easy way to do that? I've heard that drilling 2 or 3 1/4"
> holes in them does the trick, but that is just a rumor to me. What about
> placing them, one at a time, in a vice, half clamped tight and the other
> half then struck hard with a hammer - hoping to break it in half?

> Suggestions and experience reports appreciated.

Hi,
Shredding is easy. Or cut it into couple pieces with scissors.

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Mike Paulsen  
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From: Mike Paulsen <mpaul...@charter.net>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:17:47 -0600
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?

CWLee wrote:

> I have a number of DVDs containing computer backup information of a
> sensitive nature.

You misspelled 'porn'.

> I plan to throw away the older ones, but first I want
> to render the data on them irretrievable. Can anyone here recommend a
> quick, cheap, easy way to do that?

Ha! Pick two.

> I've heard that drilling 2 or 3 1/4"
> holes in them does the trick, but that is just a rumor to me.  What
> about placing them, one at a time, in a vice, half clamped tight and the
> other half then struck hard with a hammer - hoping to break it in half?

> Suggestions and experience reports appreciated.

Easiest way is to write "AOL Free Trial" on the disk and toss it in the
garbage. Nobody is going to touch it.

Beyond that, anything even mildly destructive is probably good enough.
(Break it in half, drill some holes, go at it with the torch or 80 grit,
etc. Just for reference, the NIST recommendations:
http://www.d3services.com/images/PDF/nistsp800-88_rev1.pdf


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Mark  
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From: "Mark" <m...@nospam.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:54:58 -0500
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 00:54
Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?

"CWLee" <cdubya...@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message

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My new shredder handles CDs, but before that I used a sharpie to scribble
all over the CD.  Remember that CDs aren't like old records, they are
recorded from the inside out, so be sure to mark over the center area of the
CD.  scratching with a nail of knife would add an extra level of security..

With my new shredder, I still scribble on them before shredding - paranoid
maybe, but rather be sure I don't lose my personal data!


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norminn@earthlink.net  
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From: "norm...@earthlink.net" <norm...@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:01:32 -0500
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?
CWLee wrote:

> I have a number of DVDs containing computer backup information of a
> sensitive nature.  I plan to throw away the older ones, but first I want
> to render the data on them irretrievable. Can anyone here recommend a
> quick, cheap, easy way to do that?  I've heard that drilling 2 or 3 1/4"
> holes in them does the trick, but that is just a rumor to me.  What
> about placing them, one at a time, in a vice, half clamped tight and the
> other half then struck hard with a hammer - hoping to break it in half?

> Suggestions and experience reports appreciated.

I wrap CD's in heavy duty foil, put in oven for about 15 min at 425.
Take em out, mash up the mess and put in garbage when cool.  None have
burned or given off smoke :o)

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Smitty Two  
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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:03:08 -0800
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?
In article <Qa6dndDXmrr9lGvXnZ2dnUVZ_jqdn...@earthlink.com>,

If you need a vise and a hammer to break a DVD in half, you might want
to get your ass to the gym.

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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:06:18 -0600
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?

CWLee wrote:

> I have a number of DVDs containing computer backup information of a
> sensitive nature.  I plan to throw away the older ones, but first I want
> to render the data on them irretrievable. Can anyone here recommend a
> quick, cheap, easy way to do that?  I've heard that drilling 2 or 3 1/4"
> holes in them does the trick, but that is just a rumor to me.  What
> about placing them, one at a time, in a vice, half clamped tight and the
> other half then struck hard with a hammer - hoping to break it in half?

> Suggestions and experience reports appreciated.

Microwave oven. Try it, you'll like the light show.

TDD


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David Nebenzahl  
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From: David Nebenzahl <nob...@but.us.chickens>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:14:12 -0800
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?
On 11/7/2009 5:06 PM The Daring Dufas spake thus:

> CWLee wrote:

>> I have a number of DVDs containing computer backup information of a
>>  sensitive nature. I plan to throw away the older ones, but first I
>> want to render the data on them irretrievable. Can anyone here
>> recommend a quick, cheap, easy way to do that? I've heard that
>> drilling 2 or 3 1/4" holes in them does the trick, but that is just
>> a rumor to me. What about placing them, one at a time, in a vice,
>> half clamped tight and the other half then struck hard with a
>> hammer - hoping to break it in half?

>> Suggestions and experience reports appreciated.

> Microwave oven. Try it, you'll like the light show.

I was going to suggest that. Try one first. It really gives some kewl
visual effects. (Google for it; for some reason, there are *hundreds* of
web pages out there dealing with the subject of nuking CDs.)

--
Who needs a junta or a dictatorship when you have a Congress
blowing Wall Street, using the media as a condom?

- harvested from Usenet


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Larry Fishel  
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From: Larry Fishel <ldfis...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:27:31 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?
Do you want discourage the average thief or a determined one? If the
former, a shredder is quick and easy. If the latter, the microwave or
the BBQ.

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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:05:12 -0500
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?

CWLee wrote:

> I have a number of DVDs containing computer backup information of a
> sensitive nature.  I plan to throw away the older ones, but first I want
> to render the data on them irretrievable. Can anyone here recommend a
> quick, cheap, easy way to do that?  I've heard that drilling 2 or 3 1/4"
> holes in them does the trick, but that is just a rumor to me.  What
> about placing them, one at a time, in a vice, half clamped tight and the
> other half then struck hard with a hammer - hoping to break it in half?

> Suggestions and experience reports appreciated.

For yourself, or for a client? If there is HIPPA info on them, your
client's insurance company/lawyers may prefer you take them to a
commercial destruction facility, so they have a report in the file if
they get audited. But if it is your own stuff, a metal container and
acetone or even gasoline, should work fine. Production destruction of
DVDs, with audit trail, is done by disk duplicator from hell. It has a
cutting head, and shaves down the metallized side, but leaves the s/n of
disk on the hub legible, so it can be logged as destroyed, by 2 people.
Costs a whole lot of money, but works very fast on a couple hundred
disks per hopper load. I wouldn't run them through a consumer-grade
shredder. Sure, it'll do a few, but it is a hell of a stress on the
teeth. If you only have a few, get out the tin snips, but wear gloves
and goggles. Those shards are sharp.

Me, I just scratch them and snap them. But then again, the stuff I throw
out, every 5 years or so, isn't likely to interest people who can
reconstruct quarter-circle sections of the data tracks with a laser
scanner and reassemble the whole pile into meaningful data.

--
aem sends...


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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:13:02 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?
On Nov 7, 5:57 pm, "CWLee" <cdubya...@post.harvard.edu> wrote:

Stick them in a microwave, its fun.

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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:20:30 -0600
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:57:06 -0800, CWLee <cdubya...@post.harvard.edu> wrote:
>I have a number of DVDs containing
>computer backup information of a
>sensitive nature.  I plan to throw away
>the older ones, but first I want to
>render the data on them irretrievable.
>Can anyone here recommend a quick,

3 seconds on high in a microwave oven.

Put a disposable cup under the dvd to avoid any mess from melting
plastic.


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Tony Hwang  
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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:30:54 -0700
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Hu,
If that is the method, then coarse sand paper or memery stone is easier.

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:53:10 -0500
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?
I take a pair of bandage shears (or compound action tin
snips). Cut at radius to the disk, take about 1/3 of the
disk out. Throw out the 1/3 of the disk in this weeks trash.
Throw 1/3 in next week's trash. Throw the other third in the
trashbin when you stop to gas up, next time.

Only an Act of God will then recover the data.

--
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"CWLee" <cdubya...@post.harvard.edu> wrote in message

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I have a number of DVDs containing
computer backup information of a
sensitive nature.  I plan to throw away
the older ones, but first I want to
render the data on them irretrievable.
Can anyone here recommend a quick,
cheap, easy way to do that?  I've heard
that drilling 2 or 3 1/4" holes in them
does the trick, but that is just a rumor
to me.  What about placing them, one at
a time, in a vice, half clamped tight
and the other half then struck hard with
a hammer - hoping to break it in half?

Suggestions and experience reports
appreciated.

--
----------
CWLee
Former slayer of dragons; practice now
limited to sacred
cows.  Believing we should hire for
quality, not quotas, and
promote for performance, not
preferences.


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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:54:05 -0500
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?
I was thinking that!

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"Mike Paulsen" <mpaul...@charter.net> wrote in message

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You misspelled 'porn'.


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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:43:41 -0800 (PST)
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On Nov 7, 6:57 pm, "CWLee" <cdubya...@post.harvard.edu> wrote:

Stupid uwave tricks can be a lot of fun

Jimmie


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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:24:11 -0800
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?

CWLee wrote:
> I have a number of DVDs containing
> computer backup information of a
> sensitive nature.  I plan to throw away
> the older ones, but first I want to
> render the data on them irretrievable.

Chop them up like an old credit card, those EMT shears do a good job.  If
the data is really sensitive then make the pieces small and divide them
between several trash containers.

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:43:55 -0500
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At different buildings, and sent out on different days.

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"DGDevin" <dgde...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

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Chop them up like an old credit card, those EMT shears do a
good job.  If
the data is really sensitive then make the pieces small and
divide them
between several trash containers.


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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:36:37 -0600
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:17:47 -0600, Mike Paulsen

<mpaul...@charter.net> wrote:

[snip]

>Easiest way is to write "AOL Free Trial" on the disk and toss it in the
>garbage. Nobody is going to touch it.

I used to get a lot of those. I'd cut it with a wire cutter and label
the place "consumer protection notch".

>Beyond that, anything even mildly destructive is probably good enough.
>(Break it in half, drill some holes, go at it with the torch or 80 grit,
>etc. Just for reference, the NIST recommendations:
>http://www.d3services.com/images/PDF/nistsp800-88_rev1.pdf

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:46:35 -0500
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All the methods posted work.  You can also run them through a decent quality
shredder.

My shredder cost less than $50 and makes nice plastic confetti out of them.

Colbyt


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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:04:09 -0500
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?

With all due respect to everyone, why does anyone think he is important
enough that someone else would go out of their away to retrieve his data
from dvd's that have not been mutilated enough? It's not going to happen.

--
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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:05:32 -0600
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Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:53:10 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"

<cayoung61**spambloc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

>Only an Act of God will then recover the data.

[snip]

P[R] = P[A] * SQR(-2.3)  /  C

C = e - .999999999

P[A] = R[G] * N

N = pi *  SQR(-1)

R[G] = SQR(C * -1) * K

K = SQR(-2) * (C * (1  /  C) - 1)


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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:06:41 -0500
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True!  But I generally keep those in my workshop and not my computer room!
Bottom line - any way you can destroy the surface of the CD or DVD will
render it useless.

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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:30:03 -0600
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Just remember to do the label side.  That's where the data lives.

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 More options 8 Nov, 16:51
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From: Harry K <turnkey4...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 08:51:44 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 16:51
Subject: Re: Render DVDs Unusable?
On Nov 8, 8:30 am, AZ Nomad <aznoma...@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote:

It lives under a couple layers of protection also.  I don't think
scribblign on it does a thing.

Harry K


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