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RichL  
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 More options 7 Nov, 23:06
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From: "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:06:30 -0500
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 23:06
Subject: New song up...
Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).  Here ya
go:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

Thanks!


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 More options 7 Nov, 23:18
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From: "Master Betty" <em...@address.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:18:18 -0600
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 23:18
Subject: Re: New song up...

"RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).  Here ya
> go:

> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

> Thanks!

"I've got my gun beside me
Got two more in my van"

Gee I wonder who the inspiration was for that? <smirk>

Damn good Rich!: Very B-52 Chuck Berryish Surfer dude.

If I had to criticize the mix I'd bring up the "back-up" vocals in the
chorus ~~ very little.

Great words but you know it doesn't change a thing.

Can't fix stupid. :-(


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 More options 7 Nov, 23:22
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From: ed s <esham...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:22:28 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 23:22
Subject: Re: New song up...
On Nov 7, 5:06 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).  Here ya
> go:

> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

> Thanks!

Love it ! Gotta get my headphones .(i'll be back)     Keep on rockin,
a top hit I'd say send it to Rush  - Ed s.

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 More options 7 Nov, 23:32
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From: "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:32:59 -0500
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 23:32
Subject: Re: New song up...
Master Betty <em...@address.com> wrote:
> "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:HtCdnaVf7IHOYGjXnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@supernews.com...
>> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).
>> Here ya go:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

>> Thanks!

> "I've got my gun beside me
> Got two more in my van"

> Gee I wonder who the inspiration was for that? <smirk>

There were many...

> Damn good Rich!: Very B-52 Chuck Berryish Surfer dude.

> If I had to criticize the mix I'd bring up the "back-up" vocals in the
> chorus ~~ very little.

> Great words but you know it doesn't change a thing.

> Can't fix stupid. :-(

Yeah, but it's therapeutic to vent...in a gentle way ;-)

Thanks for the comments!


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 More options 7 Nov, 23:33
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From: "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:33:28 -0500
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 23:33
Subject: Re: New song up...
ed s <esham...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 5:06 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix). Here
>> ya go:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

>> Thanks!

> Love it ! Gotta get my headphones .(i'll be back)     Keep on rockin,
> a top hit I'd say send it to Rush  - Ed s.

Thanks, Ed!

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 More options 8 Nov, 00:07
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From: Sean <s...@fakemail.con>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:07:01 GMT
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 00:07
Subject: Re: New song up...

RichL wrote:
> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).  Here ya
> go:

> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

> Thanks!

Wow. That's a lot of fun to listen to. Great, infectious hook in the
chorus. Damn you! That's going to be an ear worm for the rest of the
afternoon.

The mix, in my humble estimation, is excellent. Very nice balance among
the parts. Good guitar tones; the lead tone is maybe a tad corny, but
that fits the song, and who am I to accuse anything of corniness?.

On the second listen I started to think that maybe the main vox is just
a tad too out front. Maybe if it were buried just little bit, with a bit
of distance-giving 'verb (just a teeny touch) it would help place the
"band" on a stage in a roadhouse of the imagination. But what do I know?

Nice stuff. You've got good ears, dude.


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 More options 8 Nov, 00:07
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From: Sean <s...@fakemail.con>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:07:46 GMT
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 00:07
Subject: Re: New song up...

Apparently not.    :—)

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 More options 8 Nov, 00:19
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From: "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:19:26 -0500
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 00:19
Subject: Re: New song up...
Sean <s...@fakemail.con> wrote:
> RichL wrote:
>> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).
>> Here ya go:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

>> Thanks!

> Wow. That's a lot of fun to listen to. Great, infectious hook in the
> chorus. Damn you! That's going to be an ear worm for the rest of the
> afternoon.

Thanks!  That's about the highest compliment I can think of.  I noticed
my kids and their significant others humming and whistling that chorus
while I was working on the song; that's when I got the feeling the
chorus was a winner.

> The mix, in my humble estimation, is excellent. Very nice balance
> among the parts. Good guitar tones; the lead tone is maybe a tad
> corny, but that fits the song, and who am I to accuse anything of
> corniness?

I guess corniness was part of the vibe I was trying to create!

> On the second listen I started to think that maybe the main vox is
> just a tad too out front. Maybe if it were buried just little bit,
> with a bit of distance-giving 'verb (just a teeny touch) it would
> help place the "band" on a stage in a roadhouse of the imagination.
> But what do I know?

Setting levels is something I'm still struggling with a bit.  I think I
burned three CDs while fiddling with the bass and kick drum levels as
well as that guitar that comes in during the choruses before I was
satisfied with those.

With the vocals it's always a struggle for me to strike the right
balance between over-prominence and audibility of the lyrics.  I *do*
have a bit of 'verb on there (it's most easily noticed in the countdown
at the beginning) as well as a delay (1/8 note left, 1/4 note right) to
make the vocal a bit fuller.  I'll play some more with the 'verb.

> Nice stuff. You've got good ears, dude.

Thanks!
I've actually had all the music parts in place (except for that "corny"
guitar) for a couple of months and have been struggling with the lyrics
since.

That "I got myself all straight with Jesus and disregard everything he
teaches" line came to me in a flash while I was at work, the last bit of
lyrics to fall into place.

Glad you like it, and I appreciate the comments!


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 More options 8 Nov, 00:25
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From: "Master Betty" <em...@address.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:25:43 -0600
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Subject: Re: New song up...

"Sean" <s...@fakemail.con> wrote in message

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I deserve that in more ways than one. I've got to explain $450 dollars to my
wife. :-(..... Uh..."Honey!....those cabinets are going to have to wait
awhile longer."

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 More options 8 Nov, 01:18
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From: "Master Betty" <em...@address.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 19:18:41 -0600
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 01:18
Subject: Re: New song up...

"RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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<snip>

Sounds like overkill. I only mentioned the vocals (and only on the chorus)
because it sounds like a female backup but I couldn't hear it. Maybe just my
old-dog ears.

I'd leave it the way it is. Classic!~~ I was wondering of anybody in aga was
going to respond. Figures it would be Marc. LOL I can't talk to that
guy...He's too BS.

Jim


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 More options 8 Nov, 01:48
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From: Pt <pea...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:48:12 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 01:48
Subject: Re: New song up...
On Nov 7, 5:06 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).  Here ya
> go:

> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

> Thanks!

Cool!!

Pt


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 More options 8 Nov, 02:13
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From: "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:13:57 -0500
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 02:13
Subject: Re: New song up...
Master Betty <em...@address.com> wrote:
> "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:deudnbXy85Txk2vXnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@supernews.com...
>> Sean <s...@fakemail.con> wrote:
>>> RichL wrote:
>>>> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).
>>>> Here ya go:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

There's a pair of tracks that are doubling the backing vocals an octave
higher (not a female, just me).

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 More options 8 Nov, 02:14
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:14:14 -0500
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 02:14
Subject: Re: New song up...
Pt <pea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 5:06 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix). Here
>> ya go:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

>> Thanks!

> Cool!!

> Pt

Thanks!

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 More options 8 Nov, 02:25
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From: "Master Betty" <em...@address.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 20:25:40 -0600
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 02:25
Subject: Re: New song up...

"RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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I kinda figured that...It's pretty cool. That was why I wanted the higher
octave -up- cause it was making the chorus more interesting.

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 More options 8 Nov, 02:26
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From: ed s <esham...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:26:52 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 02:26
Subject: Re: New song up...
On Nov 7, 5:33 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> ed s <esham...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 7, 5:06 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix). Here
> >> ya go:

> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

> >> Thanks!

> > Love it ! Gotta get my headphones .(i'll be back)     Keep on rockin,
> > a top hit I'd say send it to Rush  - Ed s.

> Thanks, Ed!

Yep I finally got to the phones- Love it even more. It all works. Not
to distract from anything else ( great tones all round) but I love the
drums howd you do em..  Ed s.

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 More options 8 Nov, 02:53
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:53:07 -0500
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Subject: Re: New song up...
Master Betty <em...@address.com> wrote:
> "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Master Betty <em...@address.com> wrote:
>>> "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:deudnbXy85Txk2vXnZ2dnUVZ_ridnZ2d@supernews.com...
>>>> Sean <s...@fakemail.con> wrote:
>>>>> RichL wrote:
>>>>>> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).
>>>>>> Here ya go:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

OK, gotcha.  Actually the octave-up vocals are pretty prominent on the
monitors and headphones compared with this computer's speakers and also
listening on my car's system.  I'll fiddle with them a bit.

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 More options 8 Nov, 02:55
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:55:26 -0500
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 02:55
Subject: Re: New song up...
ed s <esham...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 5:33 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ed s <esham...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 7, 5:06 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).
>>>> Here ya go:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

>>>> Thanks!

>>> Love it ! Gotta get my headphones .(i'll be back) Keep on rockin,
>>> a top hit I'd say send it to Rush - Ed s.

>> Thanks, Ed!

> Yep I finally got to the phones- Love it even more. It all works. Not
> to distract from anything else ( great tones all round) but I love the
> drums howd you do em..  Ed s.

The drums are done using Sonar's built-in Session Drummer synth.  But I
learned something from watching my kid do the mixing on that other song
I put up recently.  He put a lot of compression on the snare, so I tried
doing the same thing for this song.  It seemed to work pretty well, also
I put a big EQ peak around 60 Hz on the kick so you can *feel* it.

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 More options 8 Nov, 03:02
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:02:04 -0600
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"RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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it's probably my end....leave it!

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:14:55 -0500
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 03:14
Subject: Re: New song up...

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

I don't really have a good stereo system anywhere.  My monitors are
midrange-heavy as are my headphones, what passes for a stereo system in
the house has a shot speaker,  not to mention that my treble hearing is
fading fast.  So I wind up relying on you guys to be my ears so to
speak.  One reason I like to get a lot of comments is that they're kind
of a sample audience, if a few people wind up making the same sort of
comment, I can deduce that it's not necessarily just one person's system
that's off, it's probably mine.  Anyway, I won't do anything rash!

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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:27:21 -0600
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"RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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I disagree about the guitar tracks: "needing to be redone". But I get the
campy thing.

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 05:14:14 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: New song up...
On Nov 7, 9:14 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

You deserve a good stereo - go get one, life is short  (tell em to put
it on my tab, or just to give you one and you'll remember them when
your famous- or something)  . Then you can figure out how much high
end your ears are missing and dial it in on play back.   -- ed s.
p.s. (soon to have a perm postion after contracting for a year)

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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 09:42:02 -0500
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http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

Yeah, I'm seriously thinking about it.

> p.s. (soon to have a perm postion after contracting for a year)

Great, congrats!

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 10:31:37 -0700
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Subject: Re: New song up...

"RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).  Here ya
> go:

> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

> Thanks!

Listened to it twice ... first time I thought I'd like the vocals more up
front.

Second time, I don't think I'd change a thing.  Nice hook, cool sound.

Paul


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Paul L <p...@smamlesskbtrans.net> wrote:
> "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).
>> Here ya go:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

>> Thanks!

> Listened to it twice ... first time I thought I'd like the vocals
> more up front.

> Second time, I don't think I'd change a thing.  Nice hook, cool sound.

> Paul

Thanks, Paul!

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From: "Paul L" <p...@smamlesskbtrans.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:21:22 -0700
Local: Wed 11 Nov 2009 19:21
Subject: Re: New song up...

"RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> Comments welcome as always (especially with regard to the mix).  Here ya
> go:

> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=787260&songI...

> Thanks!

This song was running through my head last night ... not a complaint !

cheers

Paul


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