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 More options 8 Nov, 10:00
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From: "bw" <bweg...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:00:13 -0600
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 10:00
Subject: Roman and MWP SSTs are the same as today
http://www.co2science.org/articles/V12/N44/C3.php

Therefore, atmospheric CO2 concentration does NOT correlate to SSTs over the
last 2000 years.


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 More options 8 Nov, 19:53
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From: RayLopez99 <raylope...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 11:53:59 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 19:53
Subject: Re: Roman and MWP SSTs are the same as today
On Nov 8, 5:00 am, "bw" <bweg...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.co2science.org/articles/V12/N44/C3.php

> Therefore, atmospheric CO2 concentration does NOT correlate to SSTs over the
> last 2000 years.

good one.  salient portions below.  indeed, more research is needed on
AGW before we jump to conclusions.  a mild carbon tax for peak oil or
budget deficit reduction purposes is warranted however, imo.

RL

What was learned
The three U.S. scientists report that their SST reconstruction "shows
cooler temperatures between about AD 400 and AD 950 [the Dark Ages
Cold Period] than during much of the so-called Medieval Warm Period
(about AD 900-1300)." Of this latter period, they say "reconstructed
SSTs were warmest from AD 1000 to AD 1250," when "SSTs within error of
modern SSTs occurred in the IPWP," as also was the case "during brief
periods of the first millennium AD," when the Roman Warm Period held
sway. They also report that "SSTs during the Little Ice Age
(approximately AD 1550-1850) were variable, and ~0.5 to 1°C colder
than modern values during the coldest intervals."

What it means
Based on a globally significant SST history, "enabling both a direct
comparison of proxy data to the instrumental record and an evaluation
of past changes in the context of twentieth century trends," we now
have substantial evidence that throughout portions of both the Roman
and Medieval Warm Periods, SSTs in the Indo-Pacific Warm Pool were
essentially equivalent to those of "the late twentieth century,"
indicating -- once again -- that there is nothing unusual, unnatural
or unprecedented about current air temperatures in this critically
important region of the globe.


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I M @ good guy  
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 More options 8 Nov, 19:03
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From: "I M @ good guy" <I...@good.guy>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:03:01 -0400
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 19:03
Subject: Re: Roman and MWP SSTs are the same as today

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 04:00:13 -0600, "bw" <bweg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.co2science.org/articles/V12/N44/C3.php

>Therefore, atmospheric CO2 concentration does NOT correlate to SSTs over the
>last 2000 years.

       Well, doesn't Hanson say the 0.4 degrees he found
means we are all gonna fry?

        But 8000 years ago was the "optimum", giving
man the warm weather he needed to be able to do
other things besides just try to stay warm and get
enough to eat.


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 More options 9 Nov, 15:00
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From: "erschroedin...@gmail.com" <erschroedin...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 07:00:13 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 15:00
Subject: Re: Roman and MWP SSTs are the same as today
On Nov 8, 5:00 am, "bw" <bweg...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> http://www.co2science.org/articles/V12/N44/C3.php

> Therefore, atmospheric CO2 concentration does NOT correlate to SSTs over the
> last 2000 years.

He believes CO2science!

(Hey, how much money have you gotten from the Nigerian you sent your
bank acct number to?)


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 More options 11 Nov, 07:08
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From: Sirius <Sir...@provider.net>
Date: 11 Nov 2009 07:08:24 GMT
Local: Wed 11 Nov 2009 07:08
Subject: Re: Roman and MWP SSTs are the same as today
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:00:13 -0800, erschroedin...@gmail.com wrote :

> On Nov 8, 5:00 am, "bw" <bweg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.co2science.org/articles/V12/N44/C3.php

>> Therefore, atmospheric CO2 concentration does NOT correlate to SSTs
>> over the last 2000 years.

> He believes CO2science!

> (Hey, how much money have you gotten from the Nigerian you sent your
> bank acct number to?)

Just note the reference :

Oppo, D.W., Rosenthal, Y. and Linsley, B.K. 2009. 2,000-year-long
temperature and hydrology reconstructions from the Indo-Pacific warm
pool. Nature 460: 1113-1116.

I never saw Nigerian scam published in Nature up to now.

A small quote more :
What was learned
The three U.S. scientists report that their SST reconstruction "shows
cooler temperatures between about AD 400 and AD 950 [the Dark Ages Cold
Period] than during much of the so-called Medieval Warm Period (about AD
900-1300)." Of this latter period, they say "reconstructed SSTs were
warmest from AD 1000 to AD 1250," when "SSTs within error of modern SSTs
occurred in the IPWP," as also was the case "during brief periods of the
first millennium AD," when the Roman Warm Period held sway. They also
report that "SSTs during the Little Ice Age (approximately AD 1550-1850)
were variable, and ~0.5 to 1°C colder than modern values during the
coldest intervals."


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