http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02-kili... "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" [ Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount Kilimanjaro to disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report today in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core analysis, Africa's highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as 2022 or as late as 2033, says glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University, who led the study.
"Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write in the paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is now gone." ]
This AGW claim of Kilimanjaro losing its icecap due to AGW has already been de-bunked many times. Nothing to do with global warming. It began to retreat back in the 1800's as we came out of the Little Ice Age about 1850. Helped by altered local rainfall patters due to deforestation in the area by the natives. In the last few hundreds of thousands of years, Kilimanjaro has probably lost and gained an icecap many, many times.
>http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02-kili... > "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" >[ >Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount Kilimanjaro to >disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report today in the journal >Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. >For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core analysis, Africa's >highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as 2022 or as late as 2033, says >glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University, who led the study.
>"Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write in the >paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is now gone." >]
Much more interesting is how the ice spires formed;
>On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:09:14 -0500, Cliff ><Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
>>http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02-kili... >> "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" >>[ >>Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount Kilimanjaro to >>disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report today in the journal >>Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. >>For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core analysis, Africa's >>highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as 2022 or as late as 2033, says >>glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University, who led the study.
>>"Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write in the >>paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is now gone." >>]
> Much more interesting is how the ice spires formed;
On Nov 2, 3:09 pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
> http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02-kili... > "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" > [ > Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount Kilimanjaro to > disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report today in the journal > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. > For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core analysis, Africa's > highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as 2022 or as late as 2033, says > glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University, who led the study.
> "Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write in the > paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is now gone." > ]
Thompson...what a tool. Kilimanjaro suffers from land use changes (deforestation) which in turn effects the amount of moisture around the mountain....also there is Atlantic Multidecadal changes. Deforestation also adds to the dust in the atmosphere, which lands on whatever snow Kilimanjaro does get, which speeds up the melting process. This shit is OLD news. Thompson also states that "coupled with even greater increases in the mid- to upper-tropical troposphere, as documented in recent decades, would at least partially explain”....This is complete bullshit. Go check the data from NOAA and other sources. Satellites and weather balloons show no warming in mid to high levels in the tropics. Only in the tinkertoy climate models does that happen.
And whats the big fucking deal if it DOES lose its glaciers. It didn't have any 12,000 years ago...a blink of an eye climatology/geologically speaking. It will disappear someday...and most likely reappear again. wait a few million years.
>On Nov 2, 3:09 pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> >wrote: >> http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02-kili... >> "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" >> [ >> Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount Kilimanjaro to >> disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report today in the journal >> Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. >> For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core analysis, Africa's >> highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as 2022 or as late as 2033, says >> glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University, who led the study.
>> "Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write in the >> paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is now gone." >> ]
>Thompson...what a tool. Kilimanjaro suffers from land use changes >(deforestation) which in turn effects the amount of moisture around >the mountain....also there is Atlantic Multidecadal changes. >Deforestation also adds to the dust in the atmosphere, which lands on >whatever snow Kilimanjaro does get, which speeds up the melting >process. This shit is OLD news. Thompson also states that "coupled >with even greater increases in the mid- to upper-tropical troposphere, >as documented in recent decades, would at least partially >explain”....This is complete bullshit. Go check the data from NOAA and >other sources. Satellites and weather balloons show no warming in mid >to high levels in the tropics. Only in the tinkertoy climate models >does that happen.
>And whats the big fucking deal if it DOES lose its glaciers. It didn't >have any 12,000 years ago...a blink of an eye climatology/geologically >speaking. It will disappear someday...and most likely reappear again. >wait a few million years.
A lot of animals and people will be displaced when the melt water shrinks to a tiny trickle.
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:11:49 -0800 (PST), Zymrgy <zym...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> >On Nov 2, 3:09 pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> > >wrote: > >>http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02-kili... > >> "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" > >> [ > >> Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount Kilimanjaro to > >> disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report today in the journal > >> Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. > >> For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core analysis, Africa's > >> highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as 2022 or as late as 2033, says > >> glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University, who led the study.
> >> "Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write in the > >> paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is now gone." > >> ]
> >Thompson...what a tool. Kilimanjaro suffers from land use changes > >(deforestation) which in turn effects the amount of moisture around > >the mountain....also there is Atlantic Multidecadal changes. > >Deforestation also adds to the dust in the atmosphere, which lands on > >whatever snow Kilimanjaro does get, which speeds up the melting > >process. This shit is OLD news. Thompson also states that "coupled > >with even greater increases in the mid- to upper-tropical troposphere, > >as documented in recent decades, would at least partially > >explain”....This is complete bullshit. Go check the data from NOAA and > >other sources. Satellites and weather balloons show no warming in mid > >to high levels in the tropics. Only in the tinkertoy climate models > >does that happen.
> >And whats the big fucking deal if it DOES lose its glaciers. It didn't > >have any 12,000 years ago...a blink of an eye climatology/geologically > >speaking. It will disappear someday...and most likely reappear again. > >wait a few million years.
> A lot of animals and people will be displaced when the melt water > shrinks to a tiny trickle.
On Nov 2, 7:16 pm, Catoni <caton...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Cliff typed:
> Opinionated article from the popular press.
> Reply:
> This AGW claim of Kilimanjaro losing its icecap due > to AGW has already been de-bunked many times. Nothing to do with > global warming. It began to retreat back in the 1800's as we came out > of the Little Ice Age about 1850. Helped by altered local rainfall > patters due to deforestation in the area by the natives. > In the last few hundreds of thousands of years, Kilimanjaro has > probably lost and gained an icecap many, many times.
Why did the loss of ice accelerate around the year 2000?
If you don't want to read the whole thing, search for "Kilimanjaro" and read what it says about that.
"The Heartland Institute’s propagation of the notion that the Kilimanjaro glacier retreat has been proved to be due to deforestation is even more egregious. They quote “an article published in Nature” by Betsy Mason (”African ice under wraps,” Nature, 24 November, 2003) which contains the statement “Although it’s tempting to blame the ice loss on global warming, researchers think that deforestation of the mountain’s foothills is the more likely culprit.” Elsewhere, Heartland refers to this as a “study.” The “study” is in reality no scientific study at all, but a news piece devoted almost entirely to Euan Nesbit’s proposal to save the Kilimanjaro glacier by wrapping it in a giant tarp. The article never says who the “experts” are, nor does it quote any scientific studies supporting the claim. The Mason news article is what Crichton quotes as “peer reviewed research” proving that it is deforestation, not global warming, which is causing the Kilimanjaro glaciers to retreat. (George Monbiot’s article in The Guardian documents a similar case of systematic misrepresentation of glacier data by skeptics.)"
>>On Nov 2, 3:09 pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> >>wrote: >>> http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02-kili... >>> "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" >>> [ >>> Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount Kilimanjaro to >>> disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report today in the journal >>> Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. >>> For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core analysis, Africa's >>> highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as 2022 or as late as 2033, says >>> glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University, who led the study.
>>> "Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write in the >>> paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is now gone." >>> ]
>>Thompson...what a tool. Kilimanjaro suffers from land use changes >>(deforestation) which in turn effects the amount of moisture around >>the mountain....also there is Atlantic Multidecadal changes. >>Deforestation also adds to the dust in the atmosphere, which lands on >>whatever snow Kilimanjaro does get, which speeds up the melting >>process. This shit is OLD news. Thompson also states that "coupled >>with even greater increases in the mid- to upper-tropical troposphere, >>as documented in recent decades, would at least partially >>explain”....This is complete bullshit. Go check the data from NOAA and >>other sources. Satellites and weather balloons show no warming in mid >>to high levels in the tropics. Only in the tinkertoy climate models >>does that happen.
>>And whats the big fucking deal if it DOES lose its glaciers. It didn't >>have any 12,000 years ago...a blink of an eye climatology/geologically >>speaking. It will disappear someday...and most likely reappear again. >>wait a few million years.
>A lot of animals and people will be displaced when the melt water >shrinks to a tiny trickle.
So glaciers supply melt water for 12,000 years, magically, with no snowfall?
What a crock, if there is no snow, the end is near, what happened to Global Warming promising more precipitation?
On Nov 2, 5:09 pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
> http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02-kili... > "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" > Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount Kilimanjaro to > disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report today in the journal > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
•• ROTFLMAO— Once again they say "could" not "will". There is also the chance that it would rebuild. A lot can change in 24 years
> For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core analysis, Africa's > highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as 2022 or as late as 2033, says > glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University, who led the study.
> "Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write in the > paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is now gone."
•• Was that peer reviewed?
–– –– In real science the burden of proof is always on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one iota of valid data for global warming nor have they provided data that climate change is being effected by commerce and industry, and not by natural phenomena.
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:27:15 -0500, T. Keating <tkuse...@ktcnslt.com> wrote:
> "Retracting Glacier Impacts Economic Outlook in the Tropical Andes"
Bariloche, Mendoza, San Rafael and a bunch of smaller cities make up the 3rd largest metropolitan region of Argentina. It's a desert and dependent upon melting Andean run off.
Has been for thousands of years, prior to the Incas who are credited with building the canals and terraces that actually preceded them. The same irrigation techniques are used today to grow some of the world's great wines and other agriculture including cattle.
>>>On Nov 2, 3:09 pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> >>>wrote: >>>> http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02- kili... >>>> "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" >>>> [ >>>> Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount >>>> Kilimanjaro to disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report >>>> today in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. >>>> For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core >>>> analysis, Africa's highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as >>>> 2022 or as late as 2033, says glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio >>>> State University, who led the study.
>>>> "Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write >>>> in the paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is >>>> now gone." ]
>>>Thompson...what a tool. Kilimanjaro suffers from land use changes >>>(deforestation) which in turn effects the amount of moisture around the >>>mountain....also there is Atlantic Multidecadal changes. Deforestation >>>also adds to the dust in the atmosphere, which lands on whatever snow >>>Kilimanjaro does get, which speeds up the melting process. This shit is >>>OLD news. Thompson also states that "coupled with even greater >>>increases in the mid- to upper-tropical troposphere, as documented in >>>recent decades, would at least partially explain”....This is complete >>>bullshit. Go check the data from NOAA and other sources. Satellites and >>>weather balloons show no warming in mid to high levels in the tropics. >>>Only in the tinkertoy climate models does that happen.
>>>And whats the big fucking deal if it DOES lose its glaciers. It didn't >>>have any 12,000 years ago...a blink of an eye climatology/geologically >>>speaking. It will disappear someday...and most likely reappear again. >>>wait a few million years.
>>A lot of animals and people will be displaced when the melt water >>shrinks to a tiny trickle.
> So glaciers supply melt water for 12,000 years, > magically, with no snowfall?
> What a crock, if there is no snow, the end is near, > what happened to Global Warming promising more precipitation?
>>"Large cities in the region are depending on glacial runoffs for their >>water supply." >>"Retracting Glacier Impacts Economic Outlook in the Tropical Andes"
> What a crock, if there is no snow, the end is near, > what happened to Global Warming promising more precipitation?
If you're that ignorant then I suggest educating yourself before participating in a discussion so far over your head.
>>>>On Nov 2, 3:09 pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> >>>>wrote: >>>>> http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02- >kili... >>>>> "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" >>>>> [ >>>>> Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount >>>>> Kilimanjaro to disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report >>>>> today in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. >>>>> For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core >>>>> analysis, Africa's highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as >>>>> 2022 or as late as 2033, says glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio >>>>> State University, who led the study.
>>>>> "Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write >>>>> in the paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is >>>>> now gone." ]
>>>>Thompson...what a tool. Kilimanjaro suffers from land use changes >>>>(deforestation) which in turn effects the amount of moisture around the >>>>mountain....also there is Atlantic Multidecadal changes. Deforestation >>>>also adds to the dust in the atmosphere, which lands on whatever snow >>>>Kilimanjaro does get, which speeds up the melting process. This shit is >>>>OLD news. Thompson also states that "coupled with even greater >>>>increases in the mid- to upper-tropical troposphere, as documented in >>>>recent decades, would at least partially explain”....This is complete >>>>bullshit. Go check the data from NOAA and other sources. Satellites and >>>>weather balloons show no warming in mid to high levels in the tropics. >>>>Only in the tinkertoy climate models does that happen.
>>>>And whats the big fucking deal if it DOES lose its glaciers. It didn't >>>>have any 12,000 years ago...a blink of an eye climatology/geologically >>>>speaking. It will disappear someday...and most likely reappear again. >>>>wait a few million years.
>>>A lot of animals and people will be displaced when the melt water >>>shrinks to a tiny trickle.
>> So glaciers supply melt water for 12,000 years, >> magically, with no snowfall?
>> What a crock, if there is no snow, the end is near, >> what happened to Global Warming promising more precipitation?
>>>Now for a completely different continent. >>>http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/COUNTRIES/LACEXT/ >ECUADOREXTN/0,,contentMDK: >>>"Large cities in the region are depending on glacial runoffs for their >>>water supply." >>>"Retracting Glacier Impacts Economic Outlook in the Tropical Andes"
>> What a crock, if there is no snow, the end is near, >> what happened to Global Warming promising more precipitation?
>If you're that ignorant then I suggest educating yourself before >participating in a discussion so far over your head.
If there is no snow, the end is near, is there some reason glaciers would not be subject to the same reality of physics?
> On Nov 2, 3:09 pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> > wrote:
> >http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02-kili... > > "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" > > [ > > Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount Kilimanjaro to > > disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report today in the journal > > Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. > > For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core analysis, Africa's > > highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as 2022 or as late as 2033, says > > glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio State University, who led the study.
> > "Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write in the > > paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is now gone." > > ]
> Thompson...what a tool. Kilimanjaro suffers from land use changes > (deforestation) which in turn effects the amount of moisture around > the mountain....also there is Atlantic Multidecadal changes. > Deforestation also adds to the dust in the atmosphere, which lands on > whatever snow Kilimanjaro does get, which speeds up the melting > process. This shit is OLD news. Thompson also states that "coupled > with even greater increases in the mid- to upper-tropical troposphere, > as documented in recent decades, would at least partially > explain”....This is complete bullshit. Go check the data from NOAA and > other sources. Satellites and weather balloons show no warming in mid > to high levels in the tropics. Only in the tinkertoy climate models > does that happen.
> And whats the big fucking deal if it DOES lose its glaciers. It didn't > have any 12,000 years ago...a blink of an eye climatology/geologically > speaking. It will disappear someday...and most likely reappear again. > wait a few million years.
I always get a kick from the people who pee themselves over ice melt. Not too long ago the very place I sit as I type this was under 5000 feet of ice. And I with out an hat. And as someone who can not swim, I am deeply(that is a pun....just wait) concerned that in just a few years this here spot will be under fathoms and fathoms of salt water with widdle fishies screwing and pooping and swimming hither and yon where once I planted a garden. fathom that.
If any yip-ity bitches want to shut themselves up - and they don't because they are yip-ity bitches - just look up the amount of air pollutants we get from volcanoes and yak farts /vs the amount of pollutants we get from us. (breathe methane for a few days and get back to me)
It's Earth. She's fine. It is we who will pass. (there is empirical data that suggests there is a funny, sarcasticle *next* line that ends in ass. the proof is left to the reader. ed.)
> >>>>On Nov 2, 3:09 pm, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...@aoltmovetheperiodc.om> > >>>>wrote: > >>>>>http://www.usatoday.com/weather/climate/globalwarming/2009-11-02- > >kili... > >>>>> "Kilimanjaro's famous icy peaks are thawing fast" > >>>>> [ > >>>>> Climate change could cause the legendary snow and ice atop Mount > >>>>> Kilimanjaro to disappear within the next 25 years, scientists report > >>>>> today in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. > >>>>> For the first time in almost 12,000 years, based on ice-core > >>>>> analysis, Africa's highest peak probably will be ice-free as early as > >>>>> 2022 or as late as 2033, says glaciologist Lonnie Thompson of Ohio > >>>>> State University, who led the study.
> >>>>> "Of the ice cover present in 1912," Thompson and his colleagues write > >>>>> in the paper, "85% has disappeared and 26% of that present in 2000 is > >>>>> now gone." ]
> >>>>Thompson...what a tool. Kilimanjaro suffers from land use changes > >>>>(deforestation) which in turn effects the amount of moisture around the > >>>>mountain....also there is Atlantic Multidecadal changes. Deforestation > >>>>also adds to the dust in the atmosphere, which lands on whatever snow > >>>>Kilimanjaro does get, which speeds up the melting process. This shit is > >>>>OLD news. Thompson also states that "coupled with even greater > >>>>increases in the mid- to upper-tropical troposphere, as documented in > >>>>recent decades, would at least partially explain”....This is complete > >>>>bullshit. Go check the data from NOAA and other sources. Satellites and > >>>>weather balloons show no warming in mid to high levels in the tropics. > >>>>Only in the tinkertoy climate models does that happen.
> >>>>And whats the big fucking deal if it DOES lose its glaciers. It didn't > >>>>have any 12,000 years ago...a blink of an eye climatology/geologically > >>>>speaking. It will disappear someday...and most likely reappear again. > >>>>wait a few million years.
> >>>A lot of animals and people will be displaced when the melt water > >>>shrinks to a tiny trickle.
> >> So glaciers supply melt water for 12,000 years, > >> magically, with no snowfall?
> >> What a crock, if there is no snow, the end is near, > >> what happened to Global Warming promising more precipitation?
> >>>Now for a completely different continent. > >>>http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/COUNTRIES/LACEXT/ > >ECUADOREXTN/0,,contentMDK: > >>>"Large cities in the region are depending on glacial runoffs for their > >>>water supply." > >>>"Retracting Glacier Impacts Economic Outlook in the Tropical Andes"
> >> What a crock, if there is no snow, the end is near, > >> what happened to Global Warming promising more precipitation?
> >If you're that ignorant then I suggest educating yourself before > >participating in a discussion so far over your head.
> If there is no snow, the end is near, is there some > reason glaciers would not be subject to the same reality > of physics?
•• There is snow and since it is springtime in the Andes there is sure to be melting. There also are some active volcanoes in the region.
— — . In real science the burden of proof is always . on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far . neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one . iota of valid data for global warming nor have . they provided data that climate change is being . effected by commerce and industry, and not by . natural phenomena.
On Nov 7, 7:42 am, "billynev...@gmail.com" <billynev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I always get a kick from the people who pee themselves over ice melt. > Not too long ago the very place I sit as I type this was under 5000 > feet of ice. And I with out an hat. And as someone who can not swim, I > am deeply(that is a pun....just wait) concerned that in just a few > years this here spot will be under fathoms and fathoms of salt water > with widdle fishies screwing and pooping and swimming hither and yon > where once I planted a garden. fathom that.
•• Do not worry, billy, it is more likely that your garden will be under 5000 feet of ice once again. It will take a few thousand years, but don't concern yourself with the wait.
> I always get a kick from the people who pee themselves over ice melt. > Not too long ago the very place I sit as I type this was under 5000 > feet of ice. And I with out an hat. And as someone who can not swim, I > am deeply(that is a pun....just wait) concerned that in just a few > years this here spot will be under fathoms and fathoms of salt water > with widdle fishies screwing and pooping and swimming hither and yon > where once I planted a garden. fathom that.
•• Do not worry, billy, it is more likely that your garden will be under 5000 feet of ice once again. It will take a few thousand years, but don't concern yourself with the wait.
Does not matter. Mankind ends in 3.3 years. 2012 is it according to Holleywood and others.
>> I always get a kick from the people who pee themselves over ice melt. >> Not too long ago the very place I sit as I type this was under 5000 >> feet of ice. And I with out an hat. And as someone who can not swim, I >> am deeply(that is a pun....just wait) concerned that in just a few >> years this here spot will be under fathoms and fathoms of salt water >> with widdle fishies screwing and pooping and swimming hither and yon >> where once I planted a garden. fathom that.
> .. Do not worry, billy, it is more likely that your > garden will be under 5000 feet of ice once again. > It will take a few thousand years, but don't concern > yourself with the wait.
> Does not matter. Mankind ends in 3.3 years. 2012 is it according to > Holleywood and others.
>>> I always get a kick from the people who pee themselves over ice melt. >>> Not too long ago the very place I sit as I type this was under 5000 >>> feet of ice. And I with out an hat. And as someone who can not swim, I >>> am deeply(that is a pun....just wait) concerned that in just a few >>> years this here spot will be under fathoms and fathoms of salt water >>> with widdle fishies screwing and pooping and swimming hither and yon >>> where once I planted a garden. fathom that.
>> .. Do not worry, billy, it is more likely that your >> garden will be under 5000 feet of ice once again. >> It will take a few thousand years, but don't concern >> yourself with the wait.
>> Does not matter. Mankind ends in 3.3 years. 2012 is it according to >> Holleywood and others.
> Yep, they been saying that for 2012 years...
Actually the Mayans were the ones forecasting 2012, and they said the last epoc started 3011 BC or something like that.
>>>> I always get a kick from the people who pee themselves over ice melt. >>>> Not too long ago the very place I sit as I type this was under 5000 >>>> feet of ice. And I with out an hat. And as someone who can not swim, I >>>> am deeply(that is a pun....just wait) concerned that in just a few >>>> years this here spot will be under fathoms and fathoms of salt water >>>> with widdle fishies screwing and pooping and swimming hither and yon >>>> where once I planted a garden. fathom that. >>> .. Do not worry, billy, it is more likely that your >>> garden will be under 5000 feet of ice once again. >>> It will take a few thousand years, but don't concern >>> yourself with the wait.
>>> Does not matter. Mankind ends in 3.3 years. 2012 is it according to >>> Holleywood and others. >> Yep, they been saying that for 2012 years...
> Actually the Mayans were the ones forecasting 2012, and they said the last > epoc started 3011 BC or something like that.
Yep.
THEIR calendar ends 2012 - but the world ended for them a long time ago.
> > I always get a kick from the people who pee themselves over ice melt. > > Not too long ago the very place I sit as I type this was under 5000 > > feet of ice. And I with out an hat. And as someone who can not swim, I > > am deeply(that is a pun....just wait) concerned that in just a few > > years this here spot will be under fathoms and fathoms of salt water > > with widdle fishies screwing and pooping and swimming hither and yon > > where once I planted a garden. fathom that.
> •• Do not worry, billy, it is more likely that your > garden will be under 5000 feet of ice once again. > It will take a few thousand years, but don't concern > yourself with the wait.
> Does not matter. Mankind ends in 3.3 years. 2012 is it according to > Holleywood and others.
>>>>> I always get a kick from the people who pee themselves over ice melt. >>>>> Not too long ago the very place I sit as I type this was under 5000 >>>>> feet of ice. And I with out an hat. And as someone who can not swim, I >>>>> am deeply(that is a pun....just wait) concerned that in just a few >>>>> years this here spot will be under fathoms and fathoms of salt water >>>>> with widdle fishies screwing and pooping and swimming hither and yon >>>>> where once I planted a garden. fathom that. >>>> .. Do not worry, billy, it is more likely that your >>>> garden will be under 5000 feet of ice once again. >>>> It will take a few thousand years, but don't concern >>>> yourself with the wait.
>>>> Does not matter. Mankind ends in 3.3 years. 2012 is it according to >>>> Holleywood and others. >>> Yep, they been saying that for 2012 years...
>> Actually the Mayans were the ones forecasting 2012, and they said the >> last epoc started 3011 BC or something like that.
> Yep.
> THEIR calendar ends 2012 - but the world ended for them a long time ago.
Their main culture ended a long time ago, actually not that long ago, but seems as if a lot of the Mayan's I have seen in MX and Central America seem to be living the same life.