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This post is part of the ongoing discussions of 'The Silmarillion' by J. R. 
R. Tolkien. For further details, please see the schedule posted elsewhere in 
these newsgroups.

Chapter of the Week (CotW) - The Silmarillion - Quenta Silmarillion (QS), 
Chapter 22 - Of the Ruin of Doriath.

INTRODUCTION

In this chapter, the loose ends of the Túrin saga are tied up, and the 
endgame of /Quenta Silmarillion/ begins in earnest, as we see the fall of 
one of the two major Elven kingdoms left in Beleriand. The stage is also set 
for the later chapters, as the Silmaril, through much turmoil and 
vicissitudes, is brought by the author to the coast of Beleriand, where it, 
and its bearer, Elwing, are left by the author, unknowingly awaiting the 
survivors of another ruined kingdom.

The tales of Húrin, Morwen, Thingol, Melian, Beren and Lúthien, reach their 
end in this chapter, the first two intertwined with the malice of Morgoth, 
and the others caught up in the fate of the Silmaril. In the closing scenes 
of the chapter, the Oath of Fëanor awakes again from sleep, bringing about 
the second slaying of Elf by Elf.

The following sections include a brief chapter synopsis, a look at the 
dialogues and monologues, several general discussion points, a selection of 
some of the archaic words used, and a brief introduction to the textual 
history (to be covered in more detail elsewhere). Please add any comments or 
responses you may have, plus any further questions you can think of.

CHAPTER SYNOPSIS

1) Wanderings of Húrin

"[Morgoth's] purpose was that Húrin should still further his [Morgoth's] 
hatred for Elves and Men, ere he died." (Of the Ruin of Doriath)

(a) Freeing of Húrin
(b) Húrin seeks Gondolin
(c) The death of Morwen
(d) Húrin at Nargothrond
(e) Húrin in Doriath
(f) The death of Húrin

2) The Fate of Doriath

"And now is Doriath drawn within the fate of a mightier realm." (Melian - Of 
Beren and Lúthien)

(a) Thingol and the Silmaril
(b) Thingol and the Dwarves
(c) Death of Thingol
(d) Departure of Melian
(e) First Sack of Menegroth
(f) Battle of Sarn Athrad
(g) Renewal of Doriath
(h) Death of Beren and Lúthien
(i) Oath of Fëanor awakes
(j) Second Sack of Menegroth

DIALOGUES/MONOLOGUES

1) Turgon-Thorondor

"If the Eagles of Manwë were wont to err thus, then long ago, lord, your 
hiding would have been in vain."

2) Húrin (Turgon)

"O Turgon, will you not hear in your hidden halls?"

3) Húrin-Morwen

Morwen: "You come at last. I have waited too long."

Húrin: "It was a dark road. I have come as I could."

4) Húrin-Mîm

Mîm: "I am Mîm; and before the proud ones came from over the Sea, Dwarves 
delved the halls of Nulukkizdîn. I have but returned to take what is mine; 
for I am the last of my people."

Húrin: "...not unknown is it to me by whom the Dragon-helm of Dor-lómin was 
betrayed."

5) Húrin-Melian (Thingol)

Húrin: "Receive thou thy fee, for thy fair keeping of my children and my 
wife!"

Melian: "With the voice of Morgoth thou dost now upbraid thy friends."

6) Thingol (Dwarves)

"How do ye of uncouth race dare to demand aught of me, Elu Thingol, Lord of 
Beleriand, whose life began by the waters of Cuiviénen years uncounted ere 
the fathers of the stunted people awoke?"

DRAMATIC SCENES

- The aged Húrin arriving in Hithlum
- Húrin crying aloud in the wilderness
- The night-sentinels' sighting of Húrin
- Morwen's death scene
- The darkness and decay of Nargothrond
- Húrin confronting Thingol
- Thingol confronting the dwarves
- Dior receiving the Silmaril-Nauglamír

DISCUSSION POINTS

- Húrin's appearance when he is released is striking: "His hair and beard 
were white and long, but he walked unbowed, bearing a great black staff; and 
he was girt with a sword." - does this sound anything like a biblical 
prophet, or even a certain wizard?

- What would have happened had Turgon told Thorondor to bring Húrin to 
Gondolin again, as indeed he later wished he had?

- The scene where Húrin cries aloud to Turgon in the wilderness, recalling 
the scene at the Fen of Serech in the Fifth Battle, also has striking 
parallels with scenes from the battle, including the scene where Húrin is 
captured at the end of the battle.

"Húrin stood in despair before the silent cliffs of the Echoriath, and the 
westering sun, piercing the clouds, stained his white hair with red. Then he 
cried aloud in the wilderness [...] 'Turgon, Turgon, remember the Fen of 
Serech!' [...] But there was no sound save the wind in the dry grasses. 
'Even so they hissed in Serech at the sunset,' he said; and as he spoke the 
sun went behind the Mountains of Shadow, and a darkness fell about him, and 
the wind ceased, and there was silence in the waste." (Of the Ruin of 
Doriath)

"There as the sun westered on the sixth day, and the shadow of Ered Wethrin 
grew dark, Huor fell pierced with a venomed arrow in his eye, and all the 
valiant Men of Hador were slain about him in a heap; and the Orcs hewed 
their heads and piled them as a mound of gold in the sunset. [Húrin is 
eventually captured.] Thus ended Nirnaeth Arnoediad, as the sun went down 
beyond the sea. Night fell in Hithlum, and there came a great storm of wind 
out of the West." (Of the Fifth Battle: Nirnaeth Arnoediad)

The parallels I see here include the shadow of Ered Wethrin (The Mountains 
of Shadow) being mentioned both times. Also, Húrin's now-white hair catches 
the westering sun, with a gleam like that of blood, compared to the golden 
hair of the dead Men of Hador gleaming like gold in the sunset. There is 
also the obvious recalling of the Fen of Serech, followed by the scenes both 
ending with sunset and the falling of night. At the battle, 28 years 
earlier, a great storm of wind came out of the West, a suitable follow-up to 
the defiance shown by Húrin with his cries of "Aurë entuluva! Day shall come 
again!". Now, an old, white-haired man, embittered by Morgoth, and reminded 
of the adventures of his youth with Huor, his long-dead brother, Húrin 
despairs in the face of the silent cliffs, and there is no great storm of 
wind to accompany the sunset, merely a "silence in the waste".

- Inadvertently revealing to Morgoth's spies the region where Gondolin was, 
is described as "the first evil that the freedom of Húrin achieved". What 
were the later evils that Húrin's freedom caused?

- Húrin is lead to Brethil by dreams of Morwen. Whence came these dreams?

- The night-sentinels at the Crossings of Teiglin see Húrin thus: "they 
thought that they saw a ghost out of some ancient battle-mound that walked 
with darkness about it". What is this darkness they see about him? Later, 
after Húrin buries Morwen, we are told that Húrin does not lie in that 
grave: "for his doom drove him on, and the Shadow still followed him." Were 
the night-sentinels sensing this shadow, this curse that Morgoth had laid on
Húrin and his kin?

- Imagine the pain Húrin felt as Morwen asked him "if you know, tell me! How 
did she [Nienor] find him [Túrin]?" He, of course, knew, but stayed silent 
as she died: "...he closed her eyes, and sat unmoving beside her as the 
night drew down. The waters of Cabed Naeramarth roared on, but he heard no 
sound, and he saw nothing, and felt nothing, for his heart was stone within 
him."

- The reference to Tol Morwen, the Stone of the Hapless, contains another of 
those references that reveal that the land will be reshaped by the wrath of 
the Valar, making clear that the end of the story (the Valar come and 
overthrow Morgoth) is not the point here. Rather it is the stories within 
the story that are the points.

- In Nargothrond, does Mîm have a point when he talks about having returned 
to take what is his? Is the slaying of Mîm by Húrin another of the evils 
caused by Húrin's freedom?

- In Doriath, when Húrin casts the Nauglamír at Thingol's feet, Thingol 
shows impressive restraint and endures Húrin's scorn, letting Melian speak 
instead. This Thingol contrasts sharply with the proud and haughty Thingol 
who spoke to Beren, and also with the prideful Thingol (admittedly obsessed 
with the Silmaril) who insulted the dwarves.

- What do you think Melian's reaction was when Húrin freely gave the 
Nauglamír to Thingol as a gift? Did she feel the web of fate drawing ever 
tighter around Thingol and herself and their kingdom?

- Is the ending of Húrin's tale a satisfactory one? A "happy ending"? 
Despite being Morgoth's thrall "no longer", we are told that "all that saw 
him fell back before his face" (what did they see there?). He is also 
described as being "bereft of all purpose and desire" and we are told that 
he "cast himself at last into the western sea".

- "...as the years passed Thingol's thought turned unceasingly to the jewel 
of Fëanor, and became bound to it, and he liked not to let it rest even 
behind the doors of his inmost treasury; and he was minded now to bear it 
with him always, waking and sleeping." This is not good! Is this a flaw in 
Thingol's character? An unavoidable fate? An effect special to the Silmaril? 
The dwarves seem to be affected in a similar way.

- Did the dwarves have a genuine claim to the Nauglamír? How would you 
resolve this dispute over a combined work of the Dwarves and the Elves?

- Why is it significant that Thingol, with his last sight, gazed upon the 
light of the Trees of Valinor, contained in the Silmaril? Is there something 
more here than just the fact that he "alone of the Forsaken Elves" had seen 
the original light? He is, literally and metaphorically "seeing the light"? 
Or does he go to his death not understanding the folly of his pride?

- Why did Doriath not expect the attack from the Dwarves of Nogrod? Should 
Melian have done more to warn them?

- This chapter contains references to Celeborn and Galadriel (who are also 
encountered in 'The Lord of the Rings') and to 'Shepherds of the Trees' 
(better known as Ents in LotR) - were these  Shepherds of the Trees added 
before or after Ents were written into the text of 'The Lord of the Rings'? 
For that matter, were the references to Galadriel and Celeborn added 
retrospectively as well (ie. added by Tolkien after he wrote LotR)?

- Had Dior already been designated Thingol's heir, or was this just 
something he took upon himself, to "raise anew the glory of the kingdom of 
Doriath"?

- Was it really wise for the Silmaril to be passed on to Dior? Didn't Dior 
realise that the Sons of Fëanor would lay claim to it? Could Dior have 
handled things better, or has he inherited the pride of Thingol?

- The "babes in the wood" story is a staple of legends from many cultures. 
But here it seems there is no happy ending. What happened to Eluréd and 
Elurín?

- This chapter was extensively edited from different parts of Tolkien's 
writings, and some bits were added in order to maintain a consistent and 
coherent story. Can you tell which bits are by J. R. R. Tolkien, and which 
bits aren't?

ARCHAIC WORDS AND SPEECH

- "aught that was good" - 'aught' means 'nothing'
- "descry" - to see from a distance
- "straightway" - straightaway
- "wont to err thus" - /Thorondor/ ('wont' - accustomed)
- "thou; thy; thee" - /Húrin/
- "hath; thee; seeth; thou; dost" - /Melian/
- "aforetime" - before
- "amidmost" - in the very centre
- "ye; aught; ere" - /Thingol/
- "trammels" - restraints
- "selfsame" - identical
- "anew" - starting again

TEXTUAL HISTORY

This section briefly looks at the construction of this chapter and the 
question of who wrote which bits.

Christopher Tolkien (CJRT) edited /The Silmarillion/ from the many and 
varied versions of the stories that J. R. R. Tolkien (JRRT) had, throughout 
his life, written about the First Age. CJRT describes it thus:

"On my father's death it fell to me to try to bring the work into 
publishable form. [...] I set myself therefore to work out a single text 
selecting and arranging in such a way as seemed to me to produce the most 
coherent and internally self-consistent narrative. In this work the 
concluding chapters (from the death of Túrin Turambar) introduced peculiar 
difficulties, in that they had remained unchanged for many years, and were 
in some respects in serious disharmony with more developed conceptions in 
other parts of the book." (Foreword, /The Silmarillion/)

In other words, the last three chapters of the 1977 Silmarillion (the book 
published in 1977), of which three this chapter is the first, cover material 
that Tolkien had not returned to and updated during his rewriting of his 
tales of the First Age. As quoted above, Christopher Tolkien mentions this 
in the /Foreword/ to the book. He also said that: "In the difficult and 
doubtful task of preparing the text of the book I was very greatly assisted 
by Guy [Gavriel] Kay, who worked with me in 1974-1975."

Details of how extensive the editorial selection and stitching together of 
disparate stories had been, was not fully clear until the publication of the 
relevant /History of Middle-earth/ volumes. To deal with the problems, 
Christopher Tolkien and Guy Gavriel Kay wrote new material to fill the gaps 
in the narrative that could not otherwise be filled  without encountering 
the inconsistencies previously mentioned.

Christopher Tolkien has said that he regretted some of the editorial actions 
he carried out when putting /The Silmarillion/ together. This may refer in 
part to the way this chapter was put together.

A lot more could be written about the textual history of this chapter, but I 
am going to stop here, because I think these discussions should first and 
foremost discuss the story in the chapter. I hope to post more about the 
textual history of this chapter in a separate post. If anyone else wants to 
start discussing this first, please do so, as I may take a while to 
assimilate the relevant HoME volumes!

**

My favourite quote from this chapter:

"Then Dior arose, and about his neck he clasped the Nauglamír; and now he 
appeared as the fairest of all the children of the world, of threefold race: 
of the Edain, and of the Eldar, and of the Maiar of the Blessed Realm."

Christopher




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