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From: "Raven" <jon.lennart.beck.yeah.its.my.n...@mail.its.in.danmark>
Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 03:56:50 +0100
Local: Sun 19 Nov 2006 02:56
Subject: Re: CotW - The Silmarillion - Ch 22 - Of the Ruin of Doriath
news:arO7h.2828$k74.2455@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> - What would have happened had Turgon told Thorondor to bring Húrin to The spies of Morgoth knew or guessed that Húrin sought Gondolin. Had > Gondolin again, as indeed he later wished he had? Thorondor picked up Húrin before he came near, and before he cried before the barren cliff-face, it is possible that they would have been unable to learn the region in which Turgon dwelt. Had Thorondor done so after Húrin cried out, they would have learnt not only that which they did, but also guessed at Thorondor's connection with Turgon. This might have added to Morgoth's profit from the affair. Otherwise it does not seem to me that the fate of Gondolin would have been much affected. As for Húrin's fate, his end would presumably have been less bitter. He would not have met Morwen. He would also not have brought the Nauglamir to Doriath, and probably the slaying of Thingol by the Dwarves would have been avoided. Melian not departing, the Girdle would have remained intact, and the sons of Fëanor would not have been able to make a direct assault as they did in the second sack of Menegroth. But possibly that dreadful oath would have found another way to bring war and ruin to Doriath. > - Inadvertently revealing to Morgoth's spies the region where Gondolin I would guess that this must be the bringing of the Nauglamir to Doriath. > was, is described as "the first evil that the freedom of Húrin achieved". > What were the later evils that Húrin's freedom caused? Though this could scarcely have been one of the evils planned or hoped for by Morgoth. > - The "babes in the wood" story is a staple of legends from many cultures. Nothing more is recorded of their fates. Had they survived, heirs to > But here it seems there is no happy ending. What happened to Eluréd and > Elurín? Díor and to Thingol before him, it would have been recorded. Presumably they died of hunger and thirst. Hraban. You must Sign in before you can post messages.
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