Nautilus wrote: > The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from the > kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it stuck in my > mind because something is done to it that I never would have done.
> In article <hd3sjr$ev...@aioe.org>, > Glenn Holliday <holli...@acm.org> wrote:
>> Nautilus wrote:
>>> The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from the >>> kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it stuck >>> in my mind because something is done to it that I never would >>> have done.
>> 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR?
> Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start.
Of course you shouldn't -- let the lazy buggers guess for them- eh - ourselves ;-)
2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees?
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> |: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from the > |: kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it stuck > |: in my mind because something is done to it that I never would > |: have done. > |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? > |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. > |: Of course you shouldn't -- let the lazy buggers guess for them- eh - > |: ourselves ;-) > |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? > No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW.
3: Can it be lifted and carried around by one person?
|: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from the |: kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it stuck |: in my mind because something is done to it that I never would |: have done. |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? |: Yes, it can.
4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural states, as it grew)?
|: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from the |: kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it stuck |: in my mind because something is done to it that I never would |: have done. |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? |: Yes, it can.
4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural state, as it grew)?
|: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from the |: kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it stuck |: in my mind because something is done to it that I never would |: have done. |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? |: Yes, it can. |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural state, as it grew)? |: Yes, it is fabricated.
> |: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from the > |: kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it stuck > |: in my mind because something is done to it that I never would > |: have done. > |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? > |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. > |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? > |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. > |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? > |: Yes, it can. > |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural state, as it > |: grew)? > |: Yes, it is fabricated. > |: 5. By the Elves? > Not by Elves. We can be sure of that.
6: Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring?
> |: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from the > |: kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it stuck > |: in my mind because something is done to it that I never would > |: have done. > |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? > |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. > |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? > |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. > |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? > |: Yes, it can. > |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural state, as it > |: grew)? > |: Yes, it is fabricated. > |: 5. By the Elves? > |: Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. > |: 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? > No, never.
> |: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from the > |: kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it stuck > |: in my mind because something is done to it that I never would > |: have done. > |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? > |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. > |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? > |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. > |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? > |: Yes, it can. > |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural state, as it > |: grew)? > |: Yes, it is fabricated. > |: 5. By the Elves? > |: Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. > |: 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? > |: No, never. > |: 7. Was it made by Men? > Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context makes it clear.
|: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from |: the kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it |: stuck in my mind because something is done to it that I |: never would have done. |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? |: Yes, it can. |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural |: state, as it grew)? |: Yes, it is fabricated. |: 5. By the Elves? |: Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. |: 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? |: No, never. |: 7. Was it made by Men? |: Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context makes |: it clear. |: 8. Was it made by Dúnedain?
> No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the Dunedain. But > that would be accidental. It's a very ordinary thing, every man > could make it.
9. Is it some kind garment or clothes?
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>>>> The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from >>>> the kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it >>>> stuck in my mind because something is done to it that I >>>> never would have done. >>>> 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? >>>> Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. >>>> 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? >>>> No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. >>>> 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? >>>> Yes, it can. >>>> 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural >>>> state, as it grew)? >>>> Yes, it is fabricated. >>>> 5. By the Elves? >>>> Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. >>>> 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? >>>> No, never. >>>> 7. Was it made by Men? >>>> Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context makes >>>> it clear. >>>> 8. Was it made by Dúnedain?
>>> No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the Dunedain. But >>> that would be accidental. It's a very ordinary thing, every man >>> could make it.
>> 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? > No.
10. Is it a weapon?
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|: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from |: the kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it |: stuck in my mind because something is done to it that I |: never would have done. |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? |: Yes, it can. |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural |: state, as it grew)? |: Yes, it is fabricated. |: 5. By the Elves? |: Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. |: 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? |: No, never. |: 7. Was it made by Men? |: Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context makes |: it clear. |: 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? |: No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the Dunedain. |: But that would be accidental. It's a very ordinary thing, |: every man could make it. |: 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? |: No. |: 10. Is it a weapon? |: No, not a weapon either.
11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>)
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> |: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from > |: the kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it > |: stuck in my mind because something is done to it that I > |: never would have done. > |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? > |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. > |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? > |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. > |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? > |: Yes, it can. > |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural > |: state, as it grew)? > |: Yes, it is fabricated. > |: 5. By the Elves? > |: Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. > |: 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? > |: No, never. > |: 7. Was it made by Men? > |: Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context makes > |: it clear. > |: 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? > |: No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the Dunedain. > |: But that would be accidental. It's a very ordinary thing, > |: every man could make it. > |: 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? > |: No. > |: 10. Is it a weapon? > |: No, not a weapon either. > |: 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) > No, not a tool.
12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the LotR, as opposed to the appendices?
|: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from |: the kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it |: stuck in my mind because something is done to it that I |: never would have done. |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? |: Yes, it can. |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural |: state, as it grew)? |: Yes, it is fabricated. |: 5. By the Elves? |: Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. |: 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? |: No, never. |: 7. Was it made by Men? |: Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context makes |: it clear. |: 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? |: No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the Dunedain. |: But that would be accidental. It's a very ordinary thing, |: every man could make it. |: 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? |: No. |: 10. Is it a weapon? |: No, not a weapon either. |: 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) |: No, not a tool. |: 12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the LotR, as |: opposed to the appendices?
> Yes, it's in the main narrative.
13. Is it of Rohirric manufacture?
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Nautilus wrote: >>>> The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from >>>> the kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it >>>> stuck in my mind because something is done to it that I >>>> never would have done. >>>> 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? >>>> Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. >>>> 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? >>>> No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. >>>> 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? >>>> Yes, it can. >>>> 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural >>>> state, as it grew)? >>>> Yes, it is fabricated. >>>> 5. By the Elves? >>>> Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. >>>> 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? >>>> No, never. >>>> 7. Was it made by Men? >>>> Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context makes >>>> it clear. >>>> 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? >>>> No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the Dunedain. >>>> But that would be accidental. It's a very ordinary thing, >>>> every man could make it. >>>> 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? >>>> No. >>>> 10. Is it a weapon? >>>> No, not a weapon either. >>>> 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) >>>> No, not a tool. >>>> 12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the LotR, as >>>> opposed to the appendices? >>> Yes, it's in the main narrative. >> 13. Is it of Rohirric manufacture? > No, it's not Rohirric.
14. Is it made out of one piece of material or several?
Nautilus wrote: >>>>>> The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from >>>>>> the kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it >>>>>> stuck in my mind because something is done to it that I >>>>>> never would have done. >>>>>> 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? >>>>>> Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. >>>>>> 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? >>>>>> No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. >>>>>> 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? >>>>>> Yes, it can. >>>>>> 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural >>>>>> state, as it grew)? >>>>>> Yes, it is fabricated. >>>>>> 5. By the Elves? >>>>>> Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. >>>>>> 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? >>>>>> No, never. >>>>>> 7. Was it made by Men? >>>>>> Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context makes >>>>>> it clear. >>>>>> 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? >>>>>> No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the Dunedain. >>>>>> But that would be accidental. It's a very ordinary thing, >>>>>> every man could make it. >>>>>> 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? >>>>>> No. >>>>>> 10. Is it a weapon? >>>>>> No, not a weapon either. >>>>>> 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) >>>>>> No, not a tool. >>>>>> 12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the LotR, as >>>>>> opposed to the appendices? >>>>> Yes, it's in the main narrative. >>>> 13. Is it of Rohirric manufacture? >>> No, it's not Rohirric. >> 14. Is it made out of one piece of material or several? > Several. I don't want to mislead you, so I'll put it this way: Before > production it consists mostly of a practically uncountable number of > similar pieces, but when it is ready for use it looks mostly > homogeneous. A bit of this and that is added in the making.
>> >>>>>> The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from >> >>>>>> the kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it >> >>>>>> stuck in my mind because something is done to it that I >> >>>>>> never would have done. >> >>>>>> 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? >> >>>>>> Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. >> >>>>>> 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? >> >>>>>> No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. >> >>>>>> 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? >> >>>>>> Yes, it can. >> >>>>>> 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural >> >>>>>> state, as it grew)? >> >>>>>> Yes, it is fabricated. >> >>>>>> 5. By the Elves? >> >>>>>> Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. >> >>>>>> 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? >> >>>>>> No, never. >> >>>>>> 7. Was it made by Men? >> >>>>>> Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context makes >> >>>>>> it clear. >> >>>>>> 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? >> >>>>>> No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the Dunedain. >> >>>>>> But that would be accidental. It's a very ordinary thing, >> >>>>>> every man could make it. >> >>>>>> 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? >> >>>>>> No. >> >>>>>> 10. Is it a weapon? >> >>>>>> No, not a weapon either. >> >>>>>> 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) >> >>>>>> No, not a tool. >> >>>>>> 12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the LotR, as >> >>>>>> opposed to the appendices? >> >>>>> Yes, it's in the main narrative. >> >>>> 13. Is it of Rohirric manufacture? >> >>> No, it's not Rohirric. >> >> 14. Is it made out of one piece of material or several? >> > Several. I don't want to mislead you, so I'll put it this way: Before >> > production it consists mostly of a practically uncountable number of >> > similar pieces, but when it is ready for use it looks mostly >> > homogeneous. A bit of this and that is added in the making.
>> I really enjoy this one :-) > Some of the answers may sound better than the actual object :-) >> 15. Is it meant for decoration? > No, it serves a very practical purpose.
Nautilus wrote: >>>>>>>>>> The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from >>>>>>>>>> the kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it >>>>>>>>>> stuck in my mind because something is done to it that I >>>>>>>>>> never would have done. >>>>>>>>>> 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? >>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. >>>>>>>>>> 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? >>>>>>>>>> No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. >>>>>>>>>> 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? >>>>>>>>>> Yes, it can. >>>>>>>>>> 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural >>>>>>>>>> state, as it grew)? >>>>>>>>>> Yes, it is fabricated. >>>>>>>>>> 5. By the Elves? >>>>>>>>>> Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. >>>>>>>>>> 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? >>>>>>>>>> No, never. >>>>>>>>>> 7. Was it made by Men? >>>>>>>>>> Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context makes >>>>>>>>>> it clear. >>>>>>>>>> 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? >>>>>>>>>> No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the Dunedain. >>>>>>>>>> But that would be accidental. It's a very ordinary thing, >>>>>>>>>> every man could make it. >>>>>>>>>> 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? >>>>>>>>>> No. >>>>>>>>>> 10. Is it a weapon? >>>>>>>>>> No, not a weapon either. >>>>>>>>>> 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) >>>>>>>>>> No, not a tool. >>>>>>>>>> 12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the LotR, as >>>>>>>>>> opposed to the appendices? >>>>>>>>> Yes, it's in the main narrative. >>>>>>>> 13. Is it of Rohirric manufacture? >>>>>>> No, it's not Rohirric. >>>>>> 14. Is it made out of one piece of material or several? >>>>> Several. I don't want to mislead you, so I'll put it this way: >>>>> Before production it consists mostly of a practically uncountable >>>>> number of similar pieces, but when it is ready for use it looks >>>>> mostly homogeneous. A bit of this and that is added in the making. >>>> 15. Is it meant for decoration? >>> No, it serves a very practical purpose. >> 16. For protection? > No. There are other things in the LOTR than war! My answer to > question 14 almost gives the nature of the object away, I think.
That's what you think :-) I am thinking of a basket (or some such) but you said you'd never do it so...
|: The object I have chosen comes more or less completely |: from the kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very |: briefly, but it stuck in my mind because something is |: done to it that I never would have done. |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from |: trees? |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? |: Yes, it can. |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its |: natural |: state, as it grew)? |: Yes, it is fabricated. |: 5. By the Elves? |: Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. |: 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? |: No, never. |: 7. Was it made by Men? |: Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context |: makes it clear. |: 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? |: No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the |: Dunedain. But that would be accidental. It's a very |: ordinary thing, every man could make it. |: 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? |: No. |: 10. Is it a weapon? |: No, not a weapon either. |: 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) |: No, not a tool. |: 12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the LotR, |: as opposed to the appendices? |: Yes, it's in the main narrative. |: 13. Is it of Rohirric manufacture? |: No, it's not Rohirric. |: 14. Is it made out of one piece of material or several? |: Several. |: I don't want to mislead you, so I'll put it this way: |: Before production it consists mostly of a practically |: uncountable number of similar pieces, but when it is ready |: for use it looks mostly homogeneous. A bit of this and that |: is added in the making. I really enjoy this one :-) Some of |: the answers may sound better than the actual object :-) |: 15. Is it meant for decoration? |: No, it serves a very practical purpose. |: 16. For protection?
> No. There are other things in the LOTR than war! My answer to > question 14 almost gives the nature of the object away, I think.
Up until this answer, I had been sure it was the serpent-banner that Théoden chopped down before he died in the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, but I'd say that that particular artefact is for both decorative and war-like purposes, so not that. Back to the drawing board ;-)
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Nautilus wrote: > In article <7m06ioF3e38f...@mid.individual.net>, > Öjevind Lång <bredband....@ojevind.lang> wrote: >> 16. For protection? > No. There are other things in the LOTR than war!
Well, to be fair he could have meant protection against the elements, protective gear against rough terrain, etc.
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> > >> >>>>>> The object I have chosen comes more or less completely from > > >> >>>>>> the kingdom of plants. It is mentioned very briefly, but it > > >> >>>>>> stuck in my mind because something is done to it that I > > >> >>>>>> never would have done. > > >> >>>>>> 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? > > >> >>>>>> Yes, it is. I should have said that from the start. > > >> >>>>>> 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from trees? > > >> >>>>>> No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. > > >> >>>>>> 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one person? > > >> >>>>>> Yes, it can. > > >> >>>>>> 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its natural > > >> >>>>>> state, as it grew)? > > >> >>>>>> Yes, it is fabricated. > > >> >>>>>> 5. By the Elves? > > >> >>>>>> Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. > > >> >>>>>> 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the Ring? > > >> >>>>>> No, never. > > >> >>>>>> 7. Was it made by Men? > > >> >>>>>> Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the context makes > > >> >>>>>> it clear. > > >> >>>>>> 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? > > >> >>>>>> No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the Dunedain. > > >> >>>>>> But that would be accidental. It's a very ordinary thing, > > >> >>>>>> every man could make it. > > >> >>>>>> 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? > > >> >>>>>> No. > > >> >>>>>> 10. Is it a weapon? > > >> >>>>>> No, not a weapon either. > > >> >>>>>> 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) > > >> >>>>>> No, not a tool. > > >> >>>>>> 12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the LotR, as > > >> >>>>>> opposed to the appendices? > > >> >>>>> Yes, it's in the main narrative. > > >> >>>> 13. Is it of Rohirric manufacture? > > >> >>> No, it's not Rohirric. > > >> >> 14. Is it made out of one piece of material or several? > > >> > Several. I don't want to mislead you, so I'll put it this way: Before > > >> > production it consists mostly of a practically uncountable number of > > >> > similar pieces, but when it is ready for use it looks mostly > > >> > homogeneous. A bit of this and that is added in the making. > > >> I really enjoy this one :-) > > > Some of the answers may sound better than the actual object :-) > > >> 15. Is it meant for decoration? > > > No, it serves a very practical purpose. > > 16. For protection? > No. There are other things in the LOTR than war! My answer to > question 14 almost gives the nature of the object away, I think.
|: The object I have chosen comes more or less |: completely from the kingdom of plants. It is |: mentioned very briefly, but it stuck in my mind |: because something is done to it that I |: never would have done. |: |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the |: start. |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from |: trees? |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one |: person? |: Yes, it can. |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its |: natural state, as it grew)? |: Yes, it is fabricated. |: 5. By the Elves? |: Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. |: 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the |: Ring? |: No, never. |: 7. Was it made by Men? |: Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the |: context makes it clear. |: 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? |: No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the |: Dunedain. But that would be accidental. It's a |: very ordinary thing, every man could make it. |: 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? |: No. |: 10. Is it a weapon? |: No, not a weapon either. |: 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) |: No, not a tool. |: 12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the |: LotR, as opposed to the appendices? |: Yes, it's in the main narrative. |: 13. Is it of Rohirric manufacture? |: No, it's not Rohirric. |: 14. Is it made out of one piece of material or several? |: Several. I don't want to mislead you, so I'll put it |: this way: Before production it consists mostly of a |: practically uncountable number of similar pieces, but |: when it is ready for use it looks mostly homogeneous. A |: bit of this and that is added in the making. I really |: enjoy this one :-) Some of the answers may sound better |: than the actual object :-) |: 15. Is it meant for decoration? |: No, it serves a very practical purpose. |: 16. For protection? |: No. There are other things in the LOTR than war! My answer to |: question 14 almost gives the nature of the object away, I |: think. |: 17. Is it a food, something intended to be eaten? |: Yes!
Cram?
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> |: The object I have chosen comes more or less > |: completely from the kingdom of plants. It is > |: mentioned very briefly, but it stuck in my mind > |: because something is done to it that I > |: never would have done. > |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? > |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the > |: start. > |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from > |: trees? > |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. > |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one > |: person? > |: Yes, it can. > |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its > |: natural state, as it grew)? > |: Yes, it is fabricated. > |: 5. By the Elves? > |: Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. > |: 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the > |: Ring? > |: No, never. > |: 7. Was it made by Men? > |: Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the > |: context makes it clear. > |: 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? > |: No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the > |: Dunedain. But that would be accidental. It's a > |: very ordinary thing, every man could make it. > |: 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? > |: No. > |: 10. Is it a weapon? > |: No, not a weapon either. > |: 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) > |: No, not a tool. > |: 12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the > |: LotR, as opposed to the appendices? > |: Yes, it's in the main narrative. > |: 13. Is it of Rohirric manufacture? > |: No, it's not Rohirric. > |: 14. Is it made out of one piece of material or several? > |: Several. I don't want to mislead you, so I'll put it > |: this way: Before production it consists mostly of a > |: practically uncountable number of similar pieces, but > |: when it is ready for use it looks mostly homogeneous. A > |: bit of this and that is added in the making. I really > |: enjoy this one :-) Some of the answers may sound better > |: than the actual object :-) > |: 15. Is it meant for decoration? > |: No, it serves a very practical purpose. > |: 16. For protection? > |: No. There are other things in the LOTR than war! My answer to > |: question 14 almost gives the nature of the object away, I > |: think. > |: 17. Is it a food, something intended to be eaten? > |: Yes! > |: 18.Cram? > No.
19. The briefly mentioned object, is it west of the Misty Mountains?
> |: The object I have chosen comes more or less > |: completely from the kingdom of plants. It is > |: mentioned very briefly, but it stuck in my mind > |: because something is done to it that I > |: never would have done. > |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? > |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the > |: start. > |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from > |: trees? > |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. > |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one > |: person? > |: Yes, it can. > |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its > |: natural state, as it grew)? > |: Yes, it is fabricated. > |: 5. By the Elves? > |: Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. > |: 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the > |: Ring? > |: No, never. > |: 7. Was it made by Men? > |: Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the > |: context makes it clear. > |: 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? > |: No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the > |: Dunedain. But that would be accidental. It's a > |: very ordinary thing, every man could make it. > |: 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? > |: No. > |: 10. Is it a weapon? > |: No, not a weapon either. > |: 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) > |: No, not a tool. > |: 12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the > |: LotR, as opposed to the appendices? > |: Yes, it's in the main narrative. > |: 13. Is it of Rohirric manufacture? > |: No, it's not Rohirric. > |: 14. Is it made out of one piece of material or several? > |: Several. I don't want to mislead you, so I'll put it > |: this way: Before production it consists mostly of a > |: practically uncountable number of similar pieces, but > |: when it is ready for use it looks mostly homogeneous. A > |: bit of this and that is added in the making. I really > |: enjoy this one :-) Some of the answers may sound better > |: than the actual object :-) > |: 15. Is it meant for decoration? > |: No, it serves a very practical purpose. > |: 16. For protection? > |: No. There are other things in the LOTR than war! My answer to > |: question 14 almost gives the nature of the object away, I > |: think. > |: 17. Is it a food, something intended to be eaten? > |: Yes! > |: 18.Cram? > |: No. > |: 19. The briefly mentioned object, is it west of the Misty Mountains? > Neither west nor east would be the best answer.
Hm. Stumped. Unless it is --- 20. The crust that Saruman threatens to withhold from Gríma, from bread possibly baked by Dunlendings, in the chapter Many Partings?
> |: The object I have chosen comes more or less > |: completely from the kingdom of plants. It is > |: mentioned very briefly, but it stuck in my mind > |: because something is done to it that I > |: never would have done. > |: 1. Is that brief mention in LOTR? > |: Yes, it is. I should have said that from the > |: start. > |: 2. Is this object's plant-part(s) primarily from > |: trees? > |: No, it isn't. It hasn't any "parts" BTW. > |: 3. Can it be lifted and carried around by one > |: person? > |: Yes, it can. > |: 4. Is it fabricated (as opposed to mostly in its > |: natural state, as it grew)? > |: Yes, it is fabricated. > |: 5. By the Elves? > |: Not by Elves. We can be sure of that. > |: 6. Is it ever close (within a few yards) to the > |: Ring? > |: No, never. > |: 7. Was it made by Men? > |: Yes. Though it is not stated directly, the > |: context makes it clear. > |: 8. Was it made by Dúnedain? > |: No. I'm not sure if those men are related to the > |: Dunedain. But that would be accidental. It's a > |: very ordinary thing, every man could make it. > |: 9. Is it some kind garment or clothes? > |: No. > |: 10. Is it a weapon? > |: No, not a weapon either. > |: 11. A tool, then (he asked desperately <GG>) > |: No, not a tool. > |: 12. Is it mentioned in the main narrative of the > |: LotR, as opposed to the appendices? > |: Yes, it's in the main narrative. > |: 13. Is it of Rohirric manufacture? > |: No, it's not Rohirric. > |: 14. Is it made out of one piece of material or several? > |: Several. I don't want to mislead you, so I'll put it > |: this way: Before production it consists mostly of a > |: practically uncountable number of similar pieces, but > |: when it is ready for use it looks mostly homogeneous. A > |: bit of this and that is added in the making. I really > |: enjoy this one :-) Some of the answers may sound better > |: than the actual object :-) > |: 15. Is it meant for decoration? >|: No, it serves a very practical purpose. > |: 16. For protection? > |: No. There are other things in the LOTR than war! My answer to > |: question 14 almost gives the nature of the object away, I > |: think. > |: 17. Is it a food, something intended to be eaten? > |: Yes! > |: 18.Cram? > |: No. > |: 19. The briefly mentioned object, is it west of the Misty Mountains? > |: Neither west nor east would be the best answer. > |: Hm. Stumped. Unless it is --- > |: 20. The crust that Saruman threatens to withhold from Gríma, from > |: bread possibly baked by Dunlendings, in the chapter Many Partings? > The place is right. But a lot more is eaten there and something else > figures in the story of LOTR.
Hm. Perhaps you do not much like toasted bread --- 21. Is it the bread that Pippin toasts for the three Hunters (and Merry and himself) in the beginning of the chapter Flotsam and Jetsam?
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