What a surprise to hear the Black Riders at the door of Orthanc, interviewing Saruman to ask him about the Land of the Halflings. Then they intercept Grima on his way to Isenguard and interrogate him about Mithrandir.
Sean_Q_ wrote: > What a surprise to hear the Black Riders at the door of Orthanc, > interviewing Saruman to ask him about the Land of the Halflings. > Then they intercept Grima on his way to Isenguard and interrogate > him about Mithrandir.
> SQ
Incorporating material from "The Hunt for the Ring", then?
> What a surprise to hear the Black Riders at the door of Orthanc, > interviewing Saruman to ask him about the Land of the Halflings. > Then they intercept Grima on his way to Isenguard and interrogate > him about Mithrandir.
> SQ
On Wikipedia it states that this event was taken for HOME-series, or something like that.
Anyway. I do love the Dramatization. Listen to it almost every evening before rolling to sleep with ear-plugs in.
Especially the poem by Gimli and the music when they leave Lorién. Utterly brilliant.
Shame the Scourging of the Shire is a bit hasted, otherwise it's imho the best adaptation so far.
On Nov 3, 1:50 pm, Sean_Q_ <no.s...@no.spam> wrote:
> What a surprise to hear the Black Riders at the door of Orthanc, > interviewing Saruman to ask him about the Land of the Halflings. > Then they intercept Grima on his way to Isenguard and interrogate > him about Mithrandir.
Is this a new BBC dramatization, or the one that's 20 years or so old?
Whatever it was, they left out Tom Bombadil. As usual.
Don't any of these producers realize that Tom is one of the most prominent characters in the whole story? For one thing it's through him that we learn a lot about Middle Earth.
Just last night I dreamed about Gandalf trapped on a high tower in the moonlight while nine black moths with red eyes fluttered around him.
> Whatever it was, they left out Tom Bombadil. As usual.
> Don't any of these producers realize that Tom is one of the most > prominent characters in the whole story? For one thing it's through > him that we learn a lot about Middle Earth.
That precise point is treated with particular address to the New Line Cinema adaptation, but surely with a broader applicability in an article in Mythlore: <http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0OON/is_1-2_25/ai_n27059874/> (Treschow, Michael and Duckworth, Mark, 'Bombadil's role in The Lord of the Rings', _Mythlore_, Fall-Winter, 2006)
In this review I ask what is, to me, an important question: can we imagine any dramatization of 'The Lord of the Rings' that does justice to Tom Bombadil in such a way that it is better to include him than to cut him? I would certainly not have liked to see any dramatization of Tom by Bakshi, Rankin & Bass or Jackson & cohorts. Possibly the august BBC could be expected not to simply reduce him to a bad joke, but would they be able to do him justice? Personally I am not convinced -- even Tolkien is occasionally very close to reducing Tom to mere silliness, and I think it would be extremely difficult for anyone to keep the balance in a dramatization -- I belive that Tom's points _must_ involve an element of exposition -- of _telling_ rather than _showing_. But precisely that seems to go against the grain of any dramatist, and so they become unable 'explain' Tom, unable to let him make the point in their adaptation that he makes in the book.
-- Troels Forchhammer Valid e-mail is <troelsfo(a)gmail.com> Please put [AFT], [RABT] or 'Tolkien' in subject.
Love while you've got love to give. Live while you've got life to live. - Piet Hein, /Memento Vivere/
> > Whatever it was, they left out Tom Bombadil. As usual.
> > Don't any of these producers realize that Tom is one of the most > > prominent characters in the whole story? For one thing it's through > > him that we learn a lot about Middle Earth.
> That precise point is treated with particular address to the New Line > Cinema adaptation, but surely with a broader applicability in an > article in Mythlore: > <http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0OON/is_1-2_25/ai_n27059874/> > (Treschow, Michael and Duckworth, Mark, 'Bombadil's role in The Lord > of the Rings', _Mythlore_, Fall-Winter, 2006)
> In this review I ask what is, to me, an important question: can we > imagine any dramatization of 'The Lord of the Rings' that does > justice to Tom Bombadil in such a way that it is better to include > him than to cut him? I would certainly not have liked to see any > dramatization of Tom by Bakshi, Rankin & Bass or Jackson & cohorts. > Possibly the august BBC could be expected not to simply reduce him to > a bad joke, but would they be able to do him justice? Personally I am > not convinced -- even Tolkien is occasionally very close to reducing > Tom to mere silliness, and I think it would be extremely difficult > for anyone to keep the balance in a dramatization -- I belive that > Tom's points _must_ involve an element of exposition -- of _telling_ > rather than _showing_. But precisely that seems to go against the > grain of any dramatist, and so they become unable 'explain' Tom, > unable to let him make the point in their adaptation that he makes in > the book.
> -- > Troels Forchhammer > Valid e-mail is <troelsfo(a)gmail.com> > Please put [AFT], [RABT] or 'Tolkien' in subject.
> Love while you've got > love to give. > Live while you've got > life to live. > - Piet Hein, /Memento Vivere/
Amen to the above. But the BBC is not to be trusted blindly in this. Their LOTR adaptation is quite fine in many respects, and is very good material for those who have not read the tale. Their adaptation of The Hobbit is, for me at least, excruciatingly campy & unbearable.
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