Raymond <Bluerhy...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > There.are documented cases of at least 230 American officers
> > > killed by their own troops, and as many as 1,400 other officers'
> > > deaths could not be explained (Vietnam)

> > > In the U.S. military, fragging refers to the act of attacking a
> > > superior officer with a fragmentation grenade. The term originated in
> > > the Vietnam War and was most commonly used to mean assassination of
> > > an
> > > unpopular officer of one's own fighting unit, often by means of a
> > > fragmentation grenade, hence the term. Although the term is derived
> > > from the grenade, the act was more commonly committed with firearms
> > > during combat in Vietnam

> > > A hand grenade was often used because it would not leave any
> > > fingerprints, and because a ballistics test could not be performed
> > > (as
> > > it could to match a bullet with a firearm). The grenade would often
> > > be
> > > thrown into the officer's tent while he slept.

> > > In WW 1.An unpopular sergeant was killed when one of his men came up
> > > behind him and dropped an unpinned hand grenade down his trousers.
> > > Thus the term : hot pants.

> > > Sometimes the intended victim would be 'warned' by first having a
> > > smoke grenade thrown into his tent. If he persisted in antagonizing
> > > his men, this would be followed by a stun grenade, and finally by a
> > > fragmentation grenade.

> > > A fragging victim could also be killed by intentional "friendly fire"
> > > during combat. In this case, the death would be blamed on the enemy,
> > > and, because of the dead man's unpopularity, the perpetrator could
> > > assume that no one would contradict the story

> > > After the My Lai Massacre, when interviewed by investigators,
> > > soldiers
> > > serving under Lieutenant William L. Calley Jr. disliked him so much
> > > that they considered fragging him. They should have and it's not to
> > > late.

> > > Fragging most often involved the murder of a commanding officer
> > > (C.O.)
> > > or a senior noncommissioned officer[citation needed] perceived as
> > > unpopular, harsh, inept, or overzealous. Many soldiers were not
> > > overly
> > > keen to go into harm's way, and preferred leaders with a similar
> > > sense
> > > of self-preservation. If a C.O. was incompetent, fragging the officer
> > > was considered a means to the end of self preservation for the men
> > > serving under him. Fragging might also occur if a commander freely
> > > took on dangerous or suicidal missions, especially if he was deemed
> > > to
> > > be seeking glory for himself.

> > > The very idea of fragging served to warn junior officers to avoid the
> > > ire of their enlisted men through recklessness, cowardice, or lack of
> > > leadership. Junior officers in turn could arrange the murder of
> > > senior
> > > officers when finding them incompetent or wasting their men's lives
> > > needlessly. Underground GI newspapers sometimes listed bounties
> > > offered by units for the fragging of unpopular commanding officers.

> > > Throughout the course of the Vietnam War, fragging was reportedly
> > > common. There are documented cases of at least 230 American officers
> > > killed by their own troops, and as many as 1,400 other officers'
> > > deaths could not be explained.Incidents of fragging have been
> > > recorded
> > > as far back as the 18th century Battle of Blenheim.

> > > Ref. Hedges, Chris (2003). What Every Person Should Know About War.
> > > Free Press. ISBN 0-7432-5512-7.

> > > Remember From Here To Eternity:
> > > Private Robert E. Lee "Prew" Prewitt (Montgomery Clift) is a loner
> > > who
> > > lives by his own code of ethics and communicates better with his
> > > bugle
> > > than he does with words. Prew's best friend is wisecracking Maggio
> > > (Frank Sinatra, in an Oscar-winning performance that revived his
> > > Flagging career), who has been targeted for persecution by sadistic
> > > stockade sergeant Fatso Judson (Ernest Borgnine).

> > >http://www.hotflick.net/pictures/953FHE_Ernest_Borgnine_001.html

> > In the USA civil war 600,000 American soldiers killed each other

> > Is what Maj Nidal Malik Hasan did any different to what  George
> > Washington did in 1775

> > George Washington opened fire on American born soldiers MANY times

> > Maj Nidal Malik Hasan, a US-born citizen, opened fire at Fort Hood on
> > Thursday, killing 13 people. George Washington killed many thousands ,
> > and stole much of their land and wealth

> >  Some claim the shooting was  the most devastating ever committed on
> > military personnel on the Mainland of the US , yank soldiers are
> > always attacking each other , the winner always gets to pretend they
> > are HEROES

> > USA soldiers have killed over 600,000 other soldiers in one single
> > war , probably millions if all  wars are counted
> > Casualties and losses in civil war
> > 110,000 killed in action
> > 360,000 total dead
> > 275,200 wounded         93,000 killed in action
> > 260,000 total dead
> > 137,000+ wounded

> > Is what Maj Nidal Malik Hasan did any different to what happened in
> > 1775  when George Washington attacked the SOLDIERS of the  then
> > GOVERNMENT because he did not agree with paying 2  cents tax on a
> > pound for tea

> > More than 300,000 people are buried in an area of 624 acres (2.53
> > km2). Veterans and military casualties from every one of the nation's
> > wars are interred in the cemetery ,

> > TWICE that number were killed by other USA soldiers ON AMERICAN SOIL
> > in the Civil Warhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

> > The Fort Hood attack began at about 1330 (1930 GMT) on Thursday at a
> > personnel and medical centre at Fort Hood - the largest US military
> > base in the world, home to about 40,000 troops.

> > George Washington LED many attacks on the SOLDIERS of the then
> > Government , because he WON that makes his actions HEROIC , had he
> > lost or been captured he would hang as a traitor who killed tens of
> > thousands of his fellow native born countrymen

> > viewable at:http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgk9t7p_184d9tk9phg

> > Most of the people George Washington killed were American  born
> > citizens , not  born  in some over seas country  , Washington attacked
> > his OWN country's soldiers and killed thousands because e did not like
> > the way his country was being run , he chose to kill the Governments
> > soldiers ,  instead of using politics to achieve change like in
> > australia and NZ

> > Major Hassan simply followed George Washington role model and advice ,
> > seems its the American way , not the ISLAMIC way after all

> > The  American Revolution, whereby some colonists rejected the
> > legitimacy of the Parliament  to govern them without fair and just
> > representation, claiming that this violated their Rights  and it was
> > their LAWFUL right to use guns to rectify the problems they
> > perceived , by shooting the government  soldiers and those who
> > supported them

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War
> > in 1776 by formally declaring new LAWS applied  , and inventing a new
> > country  they named the United States of America ‹ claiming
> > sovereignty and rejecting on the existing LAWS.  France had been
> > providing supplies, ammunition and weapons to the rebels beginning in
> > 1776, the Continentals' capture of   army weapons in 1777 led France
> > to formally enter the war on the side of the  self proclaimed "United
> > States" in early 1778, which evened the military strength with
> > existing government forces.

> > George Washington went from a criminal who broke every law in the book
> > and killed THOUSANDS of his fellow countrymen , emerged as a HERO and
> > a role model that Major Hassan seems to have followed

> > Spain and the Dutch Republic ­ French allies ­ also went to war
> > against Britain over the next two years.

> > like all dictators Washington had HIS pictures put on the money and
> > statues erected all over the Country and anybody who  rejected his
> > overthrow was DRIVEN from he land

> > 50,000 refugees were FORCED to flee for their lives , MANY ended up
> > moving to other countries including Australia to ESCAPE the madmen who
> > choose violence to FORCE their point of view

> > In areas under Washington's  control‹ that is most of the country ‹
> > People who chose to OBEY the existing  LAWS were labeled  " Loyalists
> > " were subject to confiscation of property. Outspoken critics of
> > Washington were threatened  killed and Forced to flee for their lives
> > 50,000 REFUGEES spread out all over the world in the following decades
> > fleeing  warlord Washington  and often foreign mercenaries and  his
> > gunmen and dictatorship , others remained undercover and strive to
> > return the rule of LAW against the warlords who enriched themselves
> > endlessly stealing ever more land from their neighbors and native
> > peoples  and selling it to fund their warlords way of life right up
> > until TODAY

> > Sane men know where this gun happy madness eventually ends up ,
> > endless violence rules until the entire Empire implodes in on itself

> > Nothing can save the USA from  eventual self immolation , he who lives
> > by the sword dies by the sword , While George Washington remains a
> > role model the USA is doomed

> >     Those Loyalists who have adhered to the Unity of the Empire, and
> > joined the Royal Standard before the Treaty of Separation in the year
> > 1783, and all their Children and their Descendants by either sex, are
> > to be distinguished by the following Capitals, affixed to their names:
> > U.E. Alluding to their great principle The Unity of the Empire.

> > The postnominals "U.E." are rarely seen today, but the influence of
> > the Loyalists on the evolution of Canada remains. Their ties to
> > Britain and their antipathy to the United States provided the strength
> > needed to keep Canada independent and distinct in North America. The
> > Loyalists' basic distrust of republicanism and "mob rule" influenced
> > Canada's gradual path to independence. The new British North American
> > provinces of Upper Canada (the forerunner of Ontario) and New
> > Brunswick were founded as places of refuge for the United Empire
> > Loyalists.

> > The wealthiest and most prominent Loyalist exiles went to Great
> > Britain to rebuild their careers; many received pensions. Many
> > Southern Loyalists, taking along their slaves, went to the West Indies
> > and the Bahamas, particularly to the Abaco Islands.

> > Many Loyalists brought their slaves with them to Canada (mostly to ...

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> And we must not forget the National Guard (AKA the Corporation Police
> Force)
> who killed many of their own citizens....some were their own
> neighbors.

> Do a search on the history of the Guard. You will be amazed at their
> service here in America.
>   Try: "National Guard  (AKA Corporate Police) Strike Breakers and
> Killers.

> History lesson:
> As the Youngstown, Ohio  mills rapidly geared up to full operation,
> (THE
> NATIONAL GUARD) successively shifted forces to Canton, Massillon,
> Warren and then Cleveland, completely (breaking the strike) in all
> locations by mid-July. Stunned SWOC organizers could only stand by
> helplessly as the strike went down to defeat. Adding to this shock
> was
> President Roosevelt's Shakespearean verdict on the strike. A few days
> after the strike had been broken in Youngstown, FDR told reporters
> that his attitude to SWOC and Little Steel management amounted to, "A
> plague on both your houses."

> I was there with my father (I was 11 Years old) and watched the
> National Guard
> troops beat our friends and neighbors who just wanted to go to work
> every
> day for 76 cents an hour without any benefits or job security .( and
> kicking
> back money on payday to the corrupt company foremen who permitted them
> in the
> mills to work by the day.)

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WV2q0k-uxU
> http://www.mahoninghistory.org/wdyk35-steel.htm
> http://www.ohiohistorycentral.org/entry.php?rec=513
> Memorial Day Massacre
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Day_massacre_of_1937

> Here in Youngstown, (OH) we still refer to the National Guard as the
> Corporate Police and as the Strike Breakers.

> Other cases:

> "The National Guard of Pennsylvania arrived in Homestead under the
> orders of
> Governor Robert E. Pattison. The company then used several tactics to
> weaken
> union forces. They evicted workers from company homes, arrested
> individuals
> repeatedly just to charge them bail, and involved the workers in a
> series of
> costly court cases."
> For more information on the Homestead Strike, including correspondence
> and
> illustrations, visit PBS's The American Experience series site "The
> Horrors of
> Homestead."

> The Era of Industrial Warfare
> http://www.culture-of-peace.info/intervention/chapter3-6.html

> minneapolis teamster strike
> http://www.marxists.org/history/etol/entries/193401.htm

> "It was as close to actual war as anything but war itself could be."
> Two
> strikers and a bystander were killed, 115 people were hospitalized.

> The battle for the US West Coast longshoremen's hiring halls, 1934
> http://www.labournet.net/docks2/9703/hiring.htm

> "That night the Governor of California ordered in 1,700 National
> Guardsmen, who
> enclosed the Embarcadero with barbed wire and machine gun nests,
> patrolled the
> area with armored cars, and were given orders to shoot to kill. Under
> this
> protection, freight moved steadily from the docks to the warehouses.
> The
> balance of forces had shifted decisively against the strikers; as
> Harry Bridges said,
> "We cannot stand up against police, machine guns, and National Guard
> bayonets."

> Riots Precede San Francisco General Strike "Bloody Thursday" ...
> - ... Another
> crowd tried to break through police lines ... had no intention of
> calling the
> National Guard at present ... San Francisco tomorrow if the strike
> trouble
> becomes ...
> http://www.sfmuseum.org/hist/thursday.html

> This project emphasizes the use of American military and intelligence
> assets in
> a military capacity. Therefore, military deployments for non-military
> missions
> - humanitarian relief, consentual joint training exercises, and other
> generally
> benign purposes - are excluded.

> Methodology
> American Peace Methodology  - ... as exemplified by the use of
> the***** Alabama
> Air National Guard ******in the "Bay ... whereas similar activity
> conducted by
> police forces, private strike breakers and bully ...

> Further, it was decided to include the state militias and the
> succeeding state
> National Guard forces. From the War of Independence to the Gulf War,
> the
> Department of Defense has used state militia and National Guard forces
> and
> although they are nominally under state authority, the Federal
> government does
> have immediate access to these forces upon demand. Interestingly
> enough, not
> only the Department of Defense, but also the Department of State has
> access to
> these forces, as exemplified by the use of the ******Alabama Air
> National
> Guard***** in the "Bay of Pigs" fiasco against Cuba.

> Labor Day Article  - ... Virden, Illinois mine owners attempted to
> break a
> strike ... by police during a textile strike in Lawrence
>  The National Guard was called ...
> http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/blogs/viper_123/2009/01/the...
> e-wars-and-card-ch.php

> The Buffalonian -Class War in Buffalo, 1910-1920*  - ... When the
> strike was
> called the company imported 500 strike breakers from Chicago ... the
> company
> pressed city officials to call out the national guard

> Events Leading to the War  - ... The mine operators hired strike-
> breakers, and
> the governor sent in the National Guard. But the strike continued. By
> the
> spring of 1914 a state of war existed. ...

> BLOODY WILLIAMSON  - ... contacted repeatedly by Colonel Samuel Hunter
> of the
> Illinois National Guard, who warned ... 21, a truck carrying 11 armed
> guards
> and strike breakers was ambushed ... The Illinois National Guard was
> deployed repeatedly during the 1920s to separate the
> warring parties and attempt to keep order.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williamson_County,_Illinois

> Cold Terror in California  - ... be commanded by the regular adjunct
> general of
> the National Guard; they constitute, in effect, an indirect attempt to
> increase
> the strike-breaking armed forces ...
> http://newdeal.feri.org/nation/na3497.htm
> [More results from newdeal.feri.org

> 1968 Memphis Sanitation Workers' Strike Chronology  - ... March 28 -
> March from
> Clayborn Temple, led by Dr. King, is interrupted by window
> breaking. ...
> Attempts to renew mediation of strike fail. ... National Guard
> withdrawn ...
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memphis_Sanitation_Strike

> Emotions Greeting Cards ~ The History of Labor Day  - ... Virden,
> Illinois mine
> owners attempted to break a strike by ... beaten by police during a
> textile
> strike in Lawrence ... 18 April 1912 The National Guard was called
> out ...
> http://www.emotionscards.com/trivia/fourthofjuly/laborday.html

> Union betrayal at Navistar-- A warning to Canadian auto workers  - ...
> by a
> firm of professional strike-breakers, London Protection ... dared not
> even
> mention the ongoing Navistar strike. ... office asked if the National
> Guard
> could not ...
> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jul2002/nav-j20.shtml

> Bush threatens to use troops against West Coast dockworkers World ...
> - ...
> president greater powers to halt a walkout), break- ing up ... grounds
> (so the
> union could only strike one facil ... at a time) and having the
> National Guard
> or Navy ...
> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/aug2002/ilwu-a30.pdf
> [More results from www.wsws.org]

> Recent Finds  - ... The union responded by keeping guard on the ...
> Pinkertons
> from the Pinkerton¹s National Detective Agency ... As these strike-
> breakers
> attempted to land from boats ...
> http://www.fohbc.com/PDF_Files/NewFinds_Sp2004.pdf

> Most recent update on 1199 Strike  - ... is paying for the strike
> breakers,
> transporting them to work in State rented vans, paying for their
> hotels and of
> course calling out the National Guard . ...
> http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45/178.html

> And then there was KENT STATE
> Kent State Shootings: A Chronology  - The Kent State Shootings: A
> Chronology.
> ... April 30, The first major book on the shootings, Kent State: What
> Happened
> and Why, by James Michener, is released. ...
> http://www.nrbooks.com/kent-state-chronology.htm

> Kent State shootings  - Kent State shootings. The Kent State shootings
> occurred
> at Kent State University, Ohio, and involved the shooting of students
> by ...
> Guess who.
> http://www.fact-index.com/k/ke/kent_state_shootings.html

> Let us prey.