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Newsgroups: aus.invest, sci.environment, aus.politics, sci.skeptic, sci.geo.meteorology, alt.energy.renewable, alt.politics.bush, alt.conspiracy
From: "bo n o" <s...@t.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:27:35 +1100
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 12:27
Subject: Re: Such deep thoughts from shallow people

Quote by H.L. Mencken, famous columnist: "The whole aim of practical
politics is to keep the populace alarmed - and hence clamorous to be led to
safety - by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them
imaginary."

We start with Mencken's quote because it is so well known from the past, but
yet it's still so relevant so many years later. His past insights to those
whose lives are addicted to the seeking of power, or control, or fame, or
money is still as valid today, as it was 70 years ago. Below are quotes from
the powerful; the rich; the religious; the studious; the famous; the
fanatics; and, the aspiring, all sharing a common theme of keeping "the
populace alarmed" to further their own personal, selfish goals.

Once you read the below quotes, come back and re-read the previous
paragraph. The threat to the world is not man-made global warming or climate
change. The threat to the world, as is always the case, is a current
group(s) of humans who want to impose their values and desires on others.
The people below represent such a group, and they are not saints as
individuals; in fact, quite the opposite, unfortunately.

x

Quote from Club of Rome: "In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came
up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water
shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill....All these dangers are
caused by human intervention....and thus the "real enemy, then, is humanity
itself....believe humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common
adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this
common enemy is "a real one or..one invented for the purpose."

x

Quote by Al Gore, former vice president: "Adopting a central organizing
principle means embarking on an all-out effort to use every policy and
program, every law and institution, to halt the destruction of the
environment."

x

Quote by Robert Muller, UN Assistant Secretary General: "In my view, after
fifty years of service in the United National system, I perceive the utmost
urgency and absolute necessity for proper Earth government.  There is no
shadow of a doubt that the present political and economic systems are no
longer appropriate and will lead to the end of life evolution on this
planet.  We must therefore absolutely and urgently look for new ways."

x

Quote by Maurice Strong, a primary power behind UN throne: "Isn't the only
hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it
our responsibility to bring that about?"

x

Quote by Paul Ehrlich, professor, Stanford University: "Giving society
cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a
machine gun."

x
x
Quote by Ted Turner, billionaire, founder of CNN and major UN donor: "A
total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present
levels, would be ideal."

xx

Quote by Jason Warmis, long-time activist, environmentalist, UN advocate: If
we are to stop CO2 growth, then we have to cut present world energy use by
80%, now. Our young people know the fate of the world is in their hands and
they will make the sacrifices to make this happen. They will give up their
iPods, cell phones, cars, computers, DVD players, video games, and the
Internet to achieve an 80% cut, and more if necessary - this is not an issue
for themselves, it's an issue of saving the world for our betters, nature.
Our young people will not fail us; they will lead the way as the last
crucible of change and hope.

x

Quote by Jeffery Sachs, Columbia University, Director of The Earth
Institute: "Obama is already setting a new historic course by reorienting
the economy from private consumption to public investments...free-market
pundits bemoan the evident intention of Obama and team to 'tell us what kind
of car to drive'. Yet that is exactly what they intend to do...and rightly
so. Free-market ideology is an anachronism in an era of climate change."

x

Quote by Barbara Stocking, chief executive of Oxfam in Britain: "Funding
from rich countries to help the poor and vulnerable adapt to climate change
is not even one percent of what is needed. This glaring injustice must be
addressed at Copenhagen in December [2009]."

Quote by Emma Brindal, a climate justice campaigner coordinator for Friends
of the Earth: "A climate change response must have at its heart a
redistribution of wealth and resources."

x

Quote by Michael Oppenheimer, major environmentalist: "The only hope for the
world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can't let other
countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we
have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they
are."

x

Quote by David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!: "We must make this an
insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must
reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing
dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of
presently settled land."

x

Quote by Louis Proyect, Columbia University: "The answer to global warming
is in the abolition of private property and production for human need. A
socialist world would place an enormous priority on alternative energy
sources. This is what ecologically-minded socialists have been exploring for
quite some time now."

x

Quote by Harry Reid, Democrat, U.S. Senate majority leader: "Coal makes us
sick. Oil makes us sick. It's global warming. It's ruining our country. It's
ruining our world."

x

Quote by Osama bin Laden, terrorist leader behind 9/11 plot & attacks: "In
fact, the life of all mankind is in danger because of global warming
resulting to a large degree from the emissions of the factories of the major
corporations; yet despite that, the representative of these corporations in
the White House insists on not observing the Kyoto accord, with the
knowledge that the statistics speak of the death and displacement of
millions of human beings because of global warming, especially in Africa."

x

Quote by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.: "Large-scale hog producers are a greater
threat to the United States and U.S. democracy than Osama bin Laden and his
terrorist network."

x

Quote by Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC: "Unless we announce
disasters, no one will listen."

x

Quote by Al Gore, former vice president: "I believe it is appropriate to
have an over-representation of factual presentations on how dangerous it is,
as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions
are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis."

x

Quote by Stephen Schneider, Stanford Univ., environmentalist: "That, of
course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up
scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little
mention of any doubts we might have."

x

Quote from Monika Kopacz, atmospheric scientist: "It is no secret that a lot
of climate-change research is subject to opinion, that climate models
sometimes disagree even on the signs of the future changes (e.g. drier vs.
wetter future climate). The problem is, only sensational exaggeration makes
the kind of story that will get politicians' - and readers' - attention. So,
yes, climate scientists might exaggerate, but in today's world, this is the
only way to assure any political action and thus more federal financing to
reduce the scientific uncertainty."

x

Quote by Christine Stewart, former Canadian Environment Minister: "No matter
if the science is all phoney, there are collateral environmental
benefits.... climate change [provides] the greatest chance to bring about
justice and equality in the world."

x

Quote by Timoth Wirth, U.S./UN functionary, former elected Democrat: "We've
got to ride the global-warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming
is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and
environmental policy."

x

Quote by Richard Benedik, former U.S./UN bureaucrat: "A global climate
treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back
the greenhouse effect."

x

Quote by Chris Folland of UK Meteorological Office: "The data don't matter.
We're not basing our recommendations [for reductions in carbon dioxide
emissions] upon the data. We're basing them upon the climate models."

x

Quote by David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University: "Rather than
seeing models as describing literal truth, we ought to see them as
convenient fictions which try to provide something useful."

x

Quote by David Suzuki, celebrity scientist on politicians ignoring climate
alarmists: "What I would challenge you to do is to put a lot of effort into
trying to see whether there's a legal way of throwing our so-called leaders
into jail because what they're doing is a criminal act."

x

Quote by Amory Lovins, scientist, Rocky Mountain Institute: "Complex
technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity. It would be little
short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant
energy, because of what we might do with it."

x

Quote by David Graber, scientist U.S. Nat'l Park Services: "We have become a
plague upon ourselves and upon the Earth. It is cosmically unlikely that the
developed world will choose to end its orgy of fossil energy consumption,
and the Third World its suicidal consumption of landscape. Until such time
as Homo Sapiens should decide to rejoin nature, some of us can only hope for
the right virus to come along."

x

Quote by Thomas Lovejoy, scientist, Smithsonian Institution: "The planet is
about to break out with fever, indeed it may already have, and we [human
beings] are the disease. We should be at war with ourselves and our
lifestyles."

x

Quote by Rowan Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury: "We must support
government coercion over enforcing international protocols and speed limits
on motorways if we want the global economy not to collapse and millions,
billions of people to die."

x

Quote by Bill Maher, supposedly a comedian: "Failing to warn the citizens of
a looming weapon of mass destruction- and that's what global warming is- in
order to protect oil company profits, well, that fits for me the definition
of treason."

x

Quote by James Hansen, prominent NASA climate scientist: "...chief
executives of large fossil fuel companies to [should] be put on trial for
high crimes against humanity and nature; [Hansen] accusing them of actively
spreading doubt about global warming in the same way that tobacco companies
blurred the links between smoking and cancer.

x

Quote by Ross Gelbsan, former journalist: "Not only do journalists not have
a responsibility to report what skeptical scientists have to say about
global warming. They have a responsibility not to report what these
scientists say."

x

Quote by Charles Alexander, Time Magazine science editor: "I would freely
admit that on [global warming] we have crossed the boundary from news
reporting to advocacy."

x

Quote by David Roberts, journalist Grist Magazine: "When we've finally
gotten serious about global warming, when the impacts are really hitting us
and we're in a full worldwide scramble to minimize the damage, we should
have war crimes trials for these bastards (global warming skeptics) -- some
sort of climate Nuremberg."

x

Quote by Noel Brown, UN official: "Entire nations could be wiped off the
face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not
reversed by the year 2000. Coastal flooding and crop failures would create
an exodus of "eco-refugees," threatening political chaos." (Editor: Yes, he
meant the year 2000.)

x

Quote by Ted Turner, billionaire, founder of CNN and major UN donor: 'Global
warming' will kill most of us, and turn the rest of us into cannibals."

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