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 More options 6 Nov, 20:59
Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, misc.rural, alt.california
From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 12:59:47 -0800
Local: Fri 6 Nov 2009 20:59
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote in message

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On Nov 5, 5:27 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

LOL!!

Re-read some of his posts. He proved nothing except that he is the
absolute MASTER OF OUTSTUPIDIFICATION.
--------------->

You're thinking of Harrison.


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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 12:56:49 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 7 Nov 2009 20:56
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
On Nov 6, 1:59 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

I'm thinking of Goo the pet food expert.

LOL!!


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From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:55:17 -0800
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 01:55
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................

"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote in message

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On Nov 6, 1:59 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

I'm thinking of Goo the pet food expert.

LOL!!

C'mon, I don't agree with everything Ball says, but Harrison is the master
of stupid. You're some kind of opponent of animal exploitation aren't you?
What are you doing in bed with a cock fighter who believes we do animals a
favour by eating them. Ball must really have your panties in a twist.


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From: "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 12:53:39 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 20:53
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
On Nov 7, 6:55 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

Hasn't it penetrated your tiny mind that Goo is so good at
outstupiding himself that Dave and I on opposite ends of the spectrum
both can agree on that fact?

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From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:54:03 -0800
Local: Sun 8 Nov 2009 23:54
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote
On Nov 7, 6:55 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

> C'mon, I don't agree with everything Ball says, but Harrison is the master
> of stupid. You're some kind of opponent of animal exploitation aren't you?
> What are you doing in bed with a cock fighter who believes we do animals a
> favour by eating them. Ball must really have your panties in a twist.-

Hasn't it penetrated your tiny mind that Goo is so good at
outstupiding himself that Dave and I on opposite ends of the spectrum
both can agree on that fact?
----------------------->

Sorry, that doesn't add up. You forget, I witnessed the whole thing. If this
was just about somebody being "stupid" you wouldn't be in league with
someone so diametrically opposed to what you believe. You are two guys who
have had the royal piss taken out of them and you're licking each others
wounds.


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From: "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 14:07:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon 9 Nov 2009 22:07
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
On Nov 8, 4:54 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

LOL!

You wish!


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From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:45:30 -0800
Local: Tues 10 Nov 2009 01:45
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................

"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote in message

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On Nov 8, 4:54 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

LOL!

You wish!
--------->

I don't wish, it's nothing to me either way.


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From: dh@.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:49:28 -0500
Local: Wed 11 Nov 2009 15:49
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:58:04 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"

    That is an excellent suggestion. What fun that once again
we're enjoying Goobal idiotics, and with his boy "Dutch" still
around to attempt some defence for it...or more likely NOT.
Anyway, we see that the Goober disagrees with himself like his
boy does:
_________________________________________________________
"Life is not a benefit for farm animals." - Goo

"Their lives may be pleasant for them." - Goo

""Life", by which you mean coming into existence, is not
a benefit at all" - Goo

"We ARE NOT, and NEVER WERE, talking about whether
existing animals "benefit" from living." - Goo

"Those "lives of positive value" are only meaningful
*IF* the livestock exist. " - Goo

"The topic is not and never has been whether or not
existing animals enjoy living." - Goo

"IF they exist, then they can benefit (or not) from the
aspects of their lives." - Goo

"No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo

"We are not and never were talking about benefits for
existing entities" - Goo

"Coming into existence is not a benefit to them" - Goo
ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
Goo even disagrees with himself about whether or not their lives
should be taken into consideration at all:
_________________________________________________________
"The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to
experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration
whatever" - Goo

"I give the lives of animals that exist *LOTS*
of consideration." - Goo

"the "getting to experience life" deserves NO
moral consideration, and is given none" - Goo

"I also give the not-yet-begun lives of animals
that are "in the pipeline", so to speak, a lot of
consideration" - Goo

"There is no "consideration" to be given." - Goo
ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
and here's a classic that Mr Smartypants reminded us of:
_________________________________________________________
"Set your clock back by an hour" - Goo

"I didn't say to set your clock back an hour" - Goo
ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
and then there's Goo's amusing though pathetic obsession with his
supposed "pre-existent state", on which his entire "argument" is
based:
_________________________________________________________
"The only way that the concept "benefit from existence"
can begin to make sense semantically is if one assumes
a pre-existent state" - Goo

"When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
existence we know" - Goo

"I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo

"we don't know if that move improves its welfare" - Goo
ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ
Looking back we remember: Wow, what an idiot.


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From: dh@.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:50:24 -0500
Local: Wed 11 Nov 2009 15:50
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:54:03 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
>>"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote
>>On Nov 7, 6:55 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
>>> C'mon, I don't agree with everything Ball says, but Harrison is the master
>>> of stupid. You're some kind of opponent of animal exploitation aren't you?
>>> What are you doing in bed with a cock fighter who believes we do animals a
>>> favour by eating them. Ball must really have your panties in a twist.-

>>Hasn't it penetrated your tiny mind that Goo is so good at
>>outstupiding himself that Dave and I on opposite ends of the spectrum
>>both can agree on that fact?
>----------------------->

>Sorry, that doesn't add up.

    That's the way it is you poor fool. We're enjoying the same
thing with you too btw.

>You forget, I witnessed the whole thing.

    Your love of the Goober prevented you from correctly
interpreting what you witnessed, or you're lying about it. Or
most likely it's a combination of both.

>If this
>was just about somebody being "stupid" you wouldn't be in league with
>someone so diametrically opposed to what you believe.

    Now wtf are you trying to say that differing beliefs about
what is and is not cruel to animals, has to do with what people
with such differing beliefs think about a lying
self-outstupidifying slimebag like the Goober?

>You are two guys who
>have had the royal piss taken out of them

    There's no evidence of that. None.

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From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:39:53 -0800
Local: Wed 11 Nov 2009 22:39
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
<dh@.> wrote

> Looking back we remember: Wow, what an idiot.

Keep telling yourself that, over and and over and over and over......

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From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:41:48 -0800
Local: Wed 11 Nov 2009 22:41
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
<dh@.> wrote

> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:54:03 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
>>You are two guys who
>>have had the royal piss taken out of them

>    There's no evidence of that. None.

The evidence is overwhelming.

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From: "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:02:39 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs 12 Nov 2009 18:02
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
On Nov 11, 3:41 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

> <dh@.> wrote

> > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:54:03 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
> >>You are two guys who
> >>have had the royal piss taken out of them

> >    There's no evidence of that. None.

> The evidence is overwhelming.

This evidence:?

"When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
existence we know" - Goo

"I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo

How the f*** do you keep a straight face when you're trying to defend
the Goo?

I'd be rolling on the floor pissing my pants laughing if I tried it.


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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:01:25 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs 12 Nov 2009 19:01
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
On Nov 11, 8:49 am, dh@. wrote:

Indeed we do remember.......and his Goobal antics will outlive the
Goo.

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:29:20 -0500
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Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................

    LOL! I keep proving it over and and over and over and
over.....

"Dogs NEVER anticipate, nor do cats, or cattle, or
any other animal you've ever encountered." - Goo

"Animals do not experience frustration." - Goo

LOL!

"Anticipation requires language." - Goo

LOL!!!


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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:33:23 -0500
Local: Thurs 12 Nov 2009 22:33
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................

On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:41:48 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
><dh@.> wrote
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:54:03 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

>>>You are two guys who
>>>have had the royal piss taken out of them

>>    There's no evidence of that. None.

>The evidence is overwhelming.

    Try providing some. You can't because there is none. It sure
would be fun to see you try presenting something, sometime, but
no...never...not you.

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:33:50 -0500
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Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:01:25 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"

    I sure wish "Dutch" would try to defend some of the stupidity
instead of just lying about the Goober having kicked some ass
somewhere. Could he really not recognise the truth when it's laid
out before him? Or does he want people to believe he's stupider
than he actually is and can't see the stupidity in Goo? It always
gets back to that question with these goobers.

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From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:05:18 -0800
Local: Fri 13 Nov 2009 05:05
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................

"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote in message

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On Nov 11, 3:41 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

> <dh@.> wrote

> > On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:54:03 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:
> >>You are two guys who
> >>have had the royal piss taken out of them

> > There's no evidence of that. None.

> The evidence is overwhelming.

This evidence:?

"When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
existence we know" - Goo

"I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo

How the f*** do you keep a straight face when you're trying to defend
the Goo?

I'd be rolling on the floor pissing my pants laughing if I tried it.

-------------------

You probably piss your pants but that's not the reason.

No, your lame attempts to paste together some quotes that make it look like
you held your own in those discussions is not at all convincing. You keep
forgetting, I was there.

Ball made a laughing stock out of fuckwit and used you for a punching bag.
It was fun to watch.


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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:08:07 -0800
Local: Fri 13 Nov 2009 05:08
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
<dh@.> wrote>>Keep telling yourself that, over and and over and over and
over......

>    LOL! I keep

Telling yourself over and over and over... The human ego defends itself any
way it can.

Now that he's not here to make a daily laughing stock of you, you can
practice this creative rewriting of history.


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From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:08:42 -0800
Local: Fri 13 Nov 2009 05:08
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................

<dh@.> wrote in message news:323pf5l6fdghjmpmsephqupokrag4s02uu@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 14:41:48 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

>><dh@.> wrote
>>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:54:03 -0800, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

>>>>You are two guys who
>>>>have had the royal piss taken out of them

>>>    There's no evidence of that. None.

>>The evidence is overwhelming.

>    Try providing some.

That's too funny.. "life is a benefit" fuckwit.

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From: "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:38:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
On Nov 12, 10:08 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

> <dh@.> wrote>>Keep telling yourself that, over and and over and over and
> over......

> >    LOL! I keep

> Telling yourself over and over and over... The human ego defends itself any
> way it can.

> Now that he's not here to make a daily laughing stock of you, you can
> practice this creative rewriting of history.

What re-writing?

The quotes are presented exactly as the Goober made them.

At this point we have to ask ourselves who is stupider, you or Goo.


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From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:24:28 -0800
Local: Fri 13 Nov 2009 21:24
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................

"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote
On Nov 12, 10:08 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

> <dh@.> wrote>>Keep telling yourself that, over and and over and over and
> over......

> > LOL! I keep

> Telling yourself over and over and over... The human ego defends itself
> any
> way it can.

> Now that he's not here to make a daily laughing stock of you, you can
> practice this creative rewriting of history.

What re-writing?

The quotes are presented exactly as the Goober made them.
--------------->

Where to begin... The quotes are out of context.  The fuckwit got
consistently and severely manhandled by Ball, at every turn and in every
possible way. You were nothing more than an irrelevant sidelight. THAT is
the reality, YOU should forget it and move on, because pretending anything
else and throwing your lot in with usenet's biggest animal abuser and creep
is just plain stupid.


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Mr.Smartypants  
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 More options 14 Nov, 17:37
Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, misc.rural, alt.california
From: "Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:37:15 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 14 Nov 2009 17:37
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
On Nov 13, 2:24 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

Once again for those who are mentally diminished, Dave and I will
likely NEVER see eye-to-eye on animal welfare or rights but we do
agree on one thing for sure:

Goobernicus (Jonny Ball) is the master of OUTSTUPIDIFCATION of
himself............and it appears you'd like him to be your mentor.


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 More options 14 Nov, 18:42
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From: ne...@millions.com
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 10:42:37 -0800
Local: Sat 14 Nov 2009 18:42
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:37:15 -0800 (PST), "Mr.Smartypants"

You can't hold a candle to The Man! He just wraps you up in those
tin-foil hats and flack-jackets and watches you wiggle and squirm
while trying to reassemble your fractured knowledge, logic and
opinions.

You are nothing more than theatrical material.

Enjoy.

DCI


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From: "Mr.Smartypants" <b...@canada.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 11:04:57 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat 14 Nov 2009 19:04
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................
On Nov 14, 11:42 am, ne...@millions.com wrote:

Yeh, you can't beat the Goo for fucking up logic.

"When the entity moves from "pre-existence" into the
existence we know" - Goo

"I never said they "move from 'pre-existence'"" - Goo

"Set your clock back by an hour" - Goo

"I didn't say to set your clock back an hour" - Goo


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From: "Dutch" <n...@email.com>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 14:52:52 -0800
Local: Sat 14 Nov 2009 22:52
Subject: Re: Goobernicus is Alive and Well....................

"Mr.Smartypants" <bunghole-jon...@lycos.com> wrote in message

news:a9ef7a83-58ba-4518-b3f1-36bebf94db5e@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 13, 2:24 pm, "Dutch" <n...@email.com> wrote:

Once again for those who are mentally diminished, Dave and I will
likely NEVER see eye-to-eye on animal welfare or rights but we do
agree on one thing for sure:

Goobernicus (Jonny Ball) is the master of OUTSTUPIDIFCATION of
himself............and it appears you'd like him to be your mentor.
----------------->

I have nothing to do with him, I just hate to see people delude themselves
as you two are doing.


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