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 More options 8 May, 01:29
From: "dan.th...@gmail.com" <dan.th...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 17:29:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs 8 May 2008 01:29
Subject: Re: Potential Indexing Problems from Comprehensive Change in Page URLs
There's no good reason to remove them - if there are links from
anywhere, the visitors coming through those links will still need
redirects. Since I would normally implement the redirects within a
custom 404 error script, we would never remove them.

The custom 404 script goes something like this:
1. Look up the requested URL in a database
2. The database records the appropriate response - a 301 for some
pages, etc.
3. If the requested URL isn't in the database, log & notify admin and
deliver the standard 404 page.

Dan Thies
http://www.seofaststart.com

On May 7, 7:06 pm, "Brian Carter" <bbcar...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 1. I could not find an answer anywhere about how long the old ones needed to
> remain- I read in forums SEO's recommending 6 months- but technically it
> could be the first time googlebot indexes the 301'd and new pages.  Because
> I don't know, we haven't removed the 301's.

> 2. We have had new pages get #1 results for the same kws that old ones got
> the #1 result for within less than a week.  We did this to an entirely new
> domain name, actually.  I believe in some cases a few fell because the
> domain name was different- I think at some point the age of your new domain
> affects the rankings.  But if all yours are on the same site, it shouldn't
> be as much of an issue.  There could be an issue with the new pages' ages.
> I don't know if the age of the new page gets credit from the age of the old
> page or not.  But I would think they'd hit stable SERP levels pretty
> quickly... can't give you an exact timeframe, but I'm guessing less than a
> month.  Toolbar pagerank (TBPR) for each page is another issue- that might
> change substantially in the next big TBPR update.

> If anyone else knows more, look fw to learning- 301 info was not all
> collected in one place, although check outhttp://www.strategicmarketingmontreal.ca/otherbb/2008/03/google-and-3...
> and also sphinn has a bunch of 301 redirect articles bookmarked:http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Asphinn.com+301

> Hope that helps,
> Brian Carter

> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:48 PM, roscoe <roscoetra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > This is a little off the center of SEM, yet I felt many out there have
> > some experience with my current situation and thus may have some
> > benchmarks to offer.

> > Situation. My e-merchandising client is in process of an entire re-
> > make of the website. An unavoidable consequence is all the page URLs -
> > save the home page - will change. The site is mature (10 years old)
> > and a number of pages have earned their way into strong positions in
> > organic search rankings and their sales are very heavily dependent
> > upon this positioning. We are retaining tag and copy text that are
> > relevant to SEO and plan to do a number of 301 redirects to give the
> > new pages a leg up.

> > I am aware that it takes a period of time before old-no-longer-active
> > page URLs disappear from the search engine indexes. I am also aware it
> > takes a period of time before the new page URLs appear in the indexes
> > and appear in their "natural" ranking position.

> > The info or experience I seek from you are: 1) How many months might
> > we expect our no-longer-active Page URLs to remain in their search
> > engine ranking position before they get removed? 2) How many months
> > might we expect it to take for our new Page URLs to attain their
> > natural level in search engine results?

> > Greatly appreciate any insights.

> > Thanks,

> > Roscoe

> --
> Brian Carter
> Fuel Interactive
> Director of Search Marketinghttp://www.fuelinteractive.comhttp://www.twitter.com/briancarterhttp:...


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