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From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 11:21:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon 11 May 2009 19:21
Subject: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
Here is a thread for discussion of how to get better code. I did a
short qi-program
here to generate html-pastable code to use in forums. Please have a
look and play with it. I encourage people to improve on the coloring
scheme, what and how to color.

/Stefan

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From: Mark Tarver <dr.mtar...@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 12:39:31 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
That looks very cool.  Just exactly how do I use it to post code on
this forum?  I've used Google to paste plain text into a box and
highlight Urls.  But then I've never really looked into this.

Mark

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From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 14:00:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon 11 May 2009 22:00
Subject: Re: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
Write your qi code in an editor with monospace

use the translate function on this page (see the example at the
bottom)

On the top forum page to the right you have the pages tab

Click that and you can add a new subject page. You will enter a
WYSIWYG kind of widget. there also is a html button on the bottom
of that page, click there and paste the generated html, enclose it in
<pre></pre> and publish it

/Stefan

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From: Mark Tarver <dr.mtar...@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 04:06:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
I did get a problem with this program. It comes up with

WRITE-CHAR: argument |;| is not a character

when you run it.  It looks as if you put ; as a symbol onto a stream
that is supposed to be a stream/list of characters.

Mark
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From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 08:56:46 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
Fixed a bug that translated #\> to #\>;

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From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 09:37:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Further improvents, checked to evaluate the code, that seemed to work

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From: Mark Tarver <dr.mtar...@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:14:51 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
Its cute - but why don't you get the computer to put the <PRE> <\PRE>
stuff in too?

Mark

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From: Mark Tarver <dr.mtar...@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:21:57 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
My last post on CTT in technicolour.  My remarks are commented with
\ ....\.

Its cute - do you think it might work even better if my comments were
black and italicised?

Mark

<PRE> <FONT COLOR="#800000">\Some time back there was some discussion
wrt Qi and Coq and such. I wrote

QUOTE
But the basic idea is that in CTT (constructive type theory), rather
than have a program which is then type checked, you have a type and
then find a program to fit.  In other words, a problem is less of the
form 'Find a type for the following expression E', more of 'Here is a
type T, find an expression that inhabits it'.

Now generally the latter question is not very useful for programmers.
However it turns out that if you feed your type theory steroids, you
can cause it to beef up to the point where your type T *expresses a
formal specification of what the program is supposed to do.* The catch
however is that your 'roided-up' type theory is combinatorially
uncontrollable.  You cannot simply release your type checker on it.
So you have to interact with the type checker to derive the solution.
At that point you have to build a proof assistant and so you have your
NuPrls and Coqs etc.
UNQUOTE

I thought I might show you how to do CTT in Qi in a series of
occasional posts.  You need to load in the proof assistant in Qi
Programs/Chap15 that comes in the Qi download.  Its documented in
http://www.lambdassociates.org/Book/page311.htm.

If we're not bothered overmuch by type security we can build a fast
implementation using rule abstractions (see http://www.lambdassociates.org/Book/page306.htm
and after for how to work them).  A rule abstraction works on a list
of ordered pairs (sequent) &lt;A, C&gt; where A is a list of
assumption and B a conclusion.\</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Qi</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">II</FONT> 2008,
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Copyright</FONT> (<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">C</
FONT>) 2001-2008 <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Mark</FONT> <FONT
COLOR="#ff950e">Tarver</FONT>
www.lambdassociates.org
<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">version</FONT> 1.06

<FONT COLOR="#800000">\Generally a starting point is the typed lambda
calculus which is part of Qi type theory and just about every typed
language.   I'm going to be brutal here to save space by saying
anything is a wff. \</FONT>

(0-) (<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">datatype</FONT> wff

        ____________
        <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">X</FONT> : wff;)

(1-) (<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">synonyms</FONT> sequent ([wff] <FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">*</FONT> wff))
<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">synonyms</FONT>

(2-) (<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">tc</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#9966cc">+</FONT>)
true

(3+) (<FONT COLOR="#5e11a6">define</FONT> abs
        {[sequent] --&gt; [sequent]}
        <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">S</FONT> -&gt; ((<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">rule</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">X</FONT> : <FONT
COLOR="#ff950e">A</FONT> &gt;&gt; <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Y</FONT> :
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">B</FONT>;
              ______________________
              (<FONT COLOR="#0000ff">/.</FONT> <FONT
COLOR="#ff950e">X</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Y</FONT>) : (<FONT
COLOR="#ff950e">A</FONT> --&gt; <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">B</FONT>);)
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">S</FONT>))
abs : ((<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> ((<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> wff) <FONT COLOR="#9966cc">*</FONT> wff))
--&gt; (<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> ((<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> wff) <FONT COLOR="#9966cc">*</FONT> wff)))

(4+) (<FONT COLOR="#5e11a6">define</FONT> app
       {[sequent] --&gt; [sequent]}
        <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">S</FONT> -&gt; ((<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">rule</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">X</FONT> : (<FONT
COLOR="#ff950e">A</FONT> --&gt; <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">B</FONT>); <FONT
COLOR="#ff950e">Y</FONT> : <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">A</FONT>;
              ___________________________
              (<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">X</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Y</
FONT>) : <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">B</FONT>;) <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">S</
FONT>))
app : ((<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> ((<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> wff) <FONT COLOR="#9966cc">*</FONT> wff))
--&gt; (<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> ((<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> wff) <FONT COLOR="#9966cc">*</FONT> wff)))

(5+) (<FONT COLOR="#5e11a6">define</FONT> hyp
       {[sequent] --&gt; [sequent]}
       <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">S</FONT> -&gt; ((<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">rule</FONT> _______________
                   <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">P</FONT> &gt;&gt; <FONT
COLOR="#ff950e">P</FONT>;) <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">S</FONT>))
hyp : ((<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> ((<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> wff) <FONT COLOR="#9966cc">*</FONT> wff))
--&gt; (<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> ((<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> wff) <FONT COLOR="#9966cc">*</FONT> wff)))

<FONT COLOR="#800000">\Here's a slightly odd def.  You'll see why its
useful in a bit.\</FONT>

(6+) (<FONT COLOR="#5e11a6">define</FONT> answer
       {[sequent] --&gt; [sequent]}
        [(<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">@p</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">A</
FONT> <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">C</FONT>) | <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">S</
FONT>] -&gt; [(<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">@p</FONT> <FONT
COLOR="#ff950e">A</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">C</FONT>) (<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">@p</FONT> [<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">C</FONT> | <FONT
COLOR="#ff950e">A</FONT>] <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">C</FONT>) | <FONT
COLOR="#ff950e">S</FONT>])
answer : ((<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> ((<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> wff) <FONT COLOR="#9966cc">*</FONT> wff))
--&gt; (<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> ((<FONT
COLOR="#9966cc">list</FONT> wff) <FONT COLOR="#9966cc">*</FONT> wff)))

<FONT COLOR="#800000">\Load the proof assistant\</FONT>

(6+) (<FONT COLOR="#9966cc">load</FONT> <FONT COLOR="#b3b300">"../Qi
Programs/Chap15/proof assistant.qi"</FONT>)
.....................
loaded : <FONT COLOR="#99ccff">symbol</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Off</FONT> we go.

(16+) (proof-assistant _)

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Input</FONT> assumptions?  (y/n) n

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Enter</FONT> conclusion: [[<FONT
COLOR="#0000ff">/.</FONT> x x] : [a --&gt; a]]
==============================
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Step</FONT> 1          unsolved 1

?- [[<FONT COLOR="#0000ff">/.</FONT> x x] |:| [a --&gt; a]]

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Tactic:</FONT> abs
==============================
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Step</FONT> 2          unsolved 1

?- [x |:| a]

1. [x |:| a]

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Tactic:</FONT> hyp
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Real</FONT> time: 7.59375 sec.
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Run</FONT> time: 0.0 sec.
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Space:</FONT> 35360 <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Bytes</
FONT>
proved : <FONT COLOR="#99ccff">symbol</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#800000">\The *proof signature* of this proof is:

&gt;&gt; [[/. x x] |:| [a --&gt; a]], abs, hyp

OK so far? Now rule closures use unification.  So we can drive the
proof in different ways.  We can ask.

What is the type of [/. x x]?
What function inhabits [a --&gt; a]?

The latter question brings us closer to CTT.  Lets do it.\</FONT>

(21+) (proof-assistant _)

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Input</FONT> assumptions?  (y/n) n

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Enter</FONT> conclusion: [<FONT
COLOR="#ff950e">What?</FONT> : [a --&gt; a]]
==============================
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Step</FONT> 1          unsolved 1

?- [<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">What?</FONT> |:| [a --&gt; a]]

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Tactic:</FONT> answer
==============================
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Step</FONT> 2          unsolved 2

?- [<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">What?</FONT> |:| [a --&gt; a]]

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Tactic:</FONT> abs
==============================
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Step</FONT> 3          unsolved 2

?- [#:X16870 |:| a]

1. [#:X16867 |:| a]

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Tactic:</FONT> hyp
==============================
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Step</FONT> 4          unsolved 1

?- [[<FONT COLOR="#0000ff">/.</FONT> #:X16867 #:X16867] |:| [a --&gt;
a]]

1. [[<FONT COLOR="#0000ff">/.</FONT> #:X16867 #:X16867] |:| [a --&gt;
a]]

<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Tactic:</FONT> hyp
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Real</FONT> time: 17.640625 sec.
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Run</FONT> time: 0.015625 sec.
<FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Space:</FONT> 76452 <FONT COLOR="#ff950e">Bytes</
FONT>
proved : <FONT COLOR="#99ccff">symbol</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#800000">\The final sequent gives the answer.

Any legal substitution for the variables in [/. #:X16867 #:X16867] has
type [a --&gt; a].  The purpose of the answer function was to allow
this information to be displayed at the end of the proof.  We could
also ask our program to find a most general type for [/. x x].

This ability to synthesise a program (= lambda function) from a type
is the very beginning of CTT.  I leave you to play with this.

Mark\</FONT>

</PRE>

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From: Mark Tarver <dr.mtar...@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 11:30:14 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
That didn't work so well.  I can see the output on Explorer on my
machine fine.  But if I put this to this group via Google, it just
sticks in all the markups (as above).  Is it designed really just for
web pages?   If so its neat all the same.

Mark


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From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 13:11:17 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
Hi Mark

>  Its cute - but why don't you get the computer to put the <PRE> <\PRE>

  stuff in too?

I will, my intention was to mix text and code and therefore it can
be good to leave the "pre" stuff out of it but I will add your
suggestion

>That didn't work so well.  I can see the output on Explorer on my
>machine fine.  But if I put this to this group via Google, it just
>sticks in all the markups (as above).  Is it designed really just for
>web pages?   If so its neat all the same.

I also had hoped for including html directly into the discussion, you
have to use google pages
in this forum, at least you can collaborate, change and make new
versions of these
home pages. But I really miss to be able to include html directly in
the discussion
forums. By the way, google pages uglifies the html and makes your life
difficult if you want to
change stuff in the html part. But you can always cut and paste to an
editor.

/Stefan

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From: "Alan D. Salewski" <salew...@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 16:12:58 -0400
Local: Tues 12 May 2009 21:12
Subject: Re: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:30:14AM -0700, Mark Tarver spake thus:

> That didn't work so well.  I can see the output on Explorer on my
> machine fine.  But if I put this to this group via Google, it just
> sticks in all the markups (as above).
*snip*
> Mark

Yep, I see the same thing here: I read this group via email, and your
technicolor post came through as a pile of HTML.

-Al

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From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:33:24 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
New version with quoting and link tags in comments together with Marks
post to see the colorizing

/Stefan

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From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:34:48 -0700 (PDT)
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A minor quick tweak!

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From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 14:40:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
fixed a typo in the code

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From: Mark Tarver <dr.mtar...@ukonline.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 13:04:59 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
Its a nice piece of programming and shows a very good grasp of how to
combine Qi-YACC with Qi.  If I ever get knocked down by a bus, I know
who would be able to maintain my code!

I'll put this program into the library against your name.

Mark

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From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:33:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
New versions, the old did not seam to work, I verified by evaluating
the output
that it did work on my system, This should work, thanks for pointing
out the
problem. Also please say if it's too much colors, or if you want to
suggest changing things.

/Stefan

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 More options 21 May, 16:37
From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Thu, 21 May 2009 08:37:47 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs 21 May 2009 16:37
Subject: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"

I missed a reference to Mark
/Stefan

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syntax-coloring-in-the-forum was changed (view version 10) by snorgers
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From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:15:28 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat 6 June 2009 23:15
Subject: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
Changed the code so that the inc-load behaves nicely

/Stefan

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syntax-coloring-in-the-forum was changed (view version 11) by snorgers
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From: snorgers <stefan.ta...@spray.se>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:59:36 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat 20 June 2009 11:59
Subject: View this page: "Syntax coloring in the forum"
bugfix

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