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harry  
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 More options 16 Oct 2006, 19:00
From: "harry" <susan.armit...@virgin.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:00:14 -0700
Local: Mon 16 Oct 2006 19:00
Subject: Re: Turkey -- the EU rejection is a historical mistake for Europe
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Don't take Wikipedia as fact. Anyone can post anything there!
Any economy can appear good with outside finance. How good it is/was
will be apparent when it disappears.
Greece is not a bit like Turkey.  (To say it is would be fighting talk
in Greece!) It doesn't have the stultifying hand of the Muslim culture
for a start.
Polish plumbers = useless plumbers.   A surplus of anything will force
prices down.

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 More options 16 Oct 2006, 19:40
From: "jgg1000a" <jgg1...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:40:41 -0700
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Subject: Re: Turkey -- the EU rejection is a historical mistake for Europe
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Laugh...  There are many subscription only sites I could have linked
to...  The point is the Baltics don't have "absolute shit economies"...
 And both Greece and Turkey are in Europe's Balkians...

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 More options 17 Oct 2006, 18:25
From: "harry" <susan.armit...@virgin.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:25:12 -0700
Local: Tues 17 Oct 2006 18:25
Subject: Re: Turkey -- the EU rejection is a historical mistake for Europe
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jgg1000a wrote:
> Laugh...  There are many subscription only sites I could have linked
> to...  The point is the Baltics don't have "absolute shit economies"...
>  And both Greece and Turkey are in Europe's Balkians...

You must be a Yank. Get your map out.
Only a tiny part of Turkey is in Europe, the rest is in Asia.  The
"Baltic countries" ar so small anyway they're neither here nor there.
Combined, equal to the economic power of Peru!

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 More options 17 Oct 2006, 19:16
From: "jgg1000a" <jgg1...@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 11:16:11 -0700
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Subject: Re: Turkey -- the EU rejection is a historical mistake for Europe
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Yeah I am a Yank who knows history...  For 1300 years Islam has played
a key role in European affairs...  From 711 to 1492, they controlled
all or parts of Spain (the Inquisition is one consequence)...  They
play a major role (if not dominate role in the Mediterrean) from the
800's to the 1700's...  In the Balkians the Ottomans were the dominent
Empire from 1400 to 1700 (a lessor role from 1700 to 1918)...

The Crusades reconnected Europe to the Spice trading routes...  The
Italian city states and Poland-Lithuania empires were built on these
routes...  The Hanseatic League history is involved here...  And surely
you remember the near Turkish sucess in the Seige of Vienna in 1529
+1689 (the later date, Vienna was saved by a Polish King)...

So yeah, Turkry does only own a small piece of Europe today however
location is everything...   Trukish pipelines will be critical to
European access to oil soon...  Balkian conflicts and divisons are
rooted in Turkish history including WWI and the latest Serbian
issues...

As far as the Baltics are concerned, they hold the power to deny the
proposed Russian-German pipeline...  And that would be a major source
of contention...

Western Europe does not equate to all things Europe inspite of their
unforgotten but past Colonialist dreams of grandeur...


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