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Barb Baker  
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 More options 16 May, 00:28
From: "Barb Baker" <bbake...@sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 19:28:46 -0400
Local: Fri 16 May 2008 00:28
Subject: MANCHESTER TIMES Saturday February 22, 1890
MURDER OF A STEPMOTHER.

JOHN METCALF, a landownder and farmer, was tried at Westmorland assizes on
Thursday, for the murder of ROSANNA METCALFE, his stepmother, on November
23rd.

The evidence tended to show that the prisoner and the deceased had
frequently quarrelled.

On the day of the murder the prisoner returned home from Appleby market, and
when he asked for his dinner, the deceased told him that he must get it
himself, whereupon an altercation arose.

The servants heard the report of a gun, and on entering the room where the
quarrel took place, they found their mistress lying upon the floor dead, her
head being battered as if with a heavy instrument, like the butt end of a
gun.

The prisoner was found in a barn about a mile from the house.  His clothes
were wet, suggesting that he had tried to drown himself.

The defence was that the prisoner was attacked by the deceased with the gun,
that she fired a shot at him, and that he then struck her and inflicted
fatal injuries.

The jury, after consulting for an hour and a half, returned a verdict of
guilty, with a strong recommendation to mercy.  Justice CHARLES passed
sentence of death.

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Jackie L  
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 More options 18 May, 08:32
From: Jackie L <jalk...@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 08:32:17 +0100 (BST)
Local: Sun 18 May 2008 08:32
Subject: John Metcalf

Does anyone know if this death would be recorded in the 'normal' way - and where John would go for execution?
  One of my Watsons married into Metcalf(e) but I have so few details that I don't know how to find a link, if there is one.
  I have; Arthur James Anthony Watson born 1902, married Marion Robinson.  Their daughter Barbara Watson married  George A.R. Metcalfe.  (no dates or places for anything here, except Arthur's family is from Kirkoswald.)  George's father is Sir Ralph A Metcalfe.
  Best wishes,
  Jackie

Barb Baker <bbake...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

MURDER OF A STEPMOTHER.

JOHN METCALF, a landownder and farmer, was tried at Westmorland assizes on
Thursday, for the murder of ROSANNA METCALFE, his stepmother, on November
23rd.

The evidence tended to show that the prisoner and the deceased had
frequently quarrelled.

On the day of the murder the prisoner returned home from Appleby market, and
when he asked for his dinner, the deceased told him that he must get it
himself, whereupon an altercation arose.

The servants heard the report of a gun, and on entering the room where the
quarrel took place, they found their mistress lying upon the floor dead, her
head being battered as if with a heavy instrument, like the butt end of a
gun.

The prisoner was found in a barn about a mile from the house. His clothes
were wet, suggesting that he had tried to drown himself.

The defence was that the prisoner was attacked by the deceased with the gun,
that she fired a shot at him, and that he then struck her and inflicted
fatal injuries.

The jury, after consulting for an hour and a half, returned a verdict of
guilty, with a strong recommendation to mercy. Justice CHARLES passed
sentence of death.

___________________________________________


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Petra Mitchinson  
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 More options 18 May, 09:07
From: "Petra Mitchinson" <Petra.Mitchin...@doctors.org.uk>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 09:07:20 +0100
Local: Sun 18 May 2008 09:07
Subject: Re: [CUL GOOGLIES] John Metcalf

If he was executed, the death would be registered as normal. However, he may have been reprieved. In that case, it is likely that he would have been transported for life, so you may have problems finding him!

Petra


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Jackie L  
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 More options 18 May, 09:17
From: Jackie L <jalk...@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 09:17:27 +0100 (BST)
Local: Sun 18 May 2008 09:17
Subject: Re: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: John Metcalf

Hi Petra,
  Thanks for the info.  It's not so likely to be the same family, given the spelling, but always worth a look.
  Best wishes,
  Jackie

Petra Mitchinson <Petra.Mitchin...@doctors.org.uk> wrote:

          If he was executed, the death would be registered as normal. However, he may have been reprieved. In that case, it is likely that he would have been transported for life, so you may have problems finding him!

  Petra


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Roland Edgar  
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 More options 18 May, 14:15
From: "Roland Edgar" <Roly.Ed...@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 14:15:53 +0100
Local: Sun 18 May 2008 14:15
Subject: Re: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: John Metcalf

Hi Jackie,

If he was executed it would be at Appleby Prison.

Roland


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Jackie L  
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 More options 18 May, 22:23
From: Jackie L <jalk...@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 22:23:38 +0100 (BST)
Local: Sun 18 May 2008 22:23
Subject: Re: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: John Metcalf

Thanks Roland, the judge obviously didn't share the jury's views on leniency in this case.
  Best wishes,
  Jackie

Roland Edgar <Roly.Ed...@btinternet.com> wrote:

      Hi Jackie,

  If he was executed it would be at Appleby Prison.

  Roland


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Jackie L  
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 More options 18 May, 22:26
From: Jackie L <jalk...@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 22:26:06 +0100 (BST)
Local: Sun 18 May 2008 22:26
Subject: Re: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: John Metcalf

Hello,
  I've had two bounced messages from this thread.  They both said:-

  This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification.

Delivery to the following recipients failed.

       margaretsheffi...@msn.com

Best wishes,
  Jackie


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Barb Baker  
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 More options 18 May, 22:34
From: "Barb Baker" <bbake...@sympatico.ca>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 17:34:27 -0400
Local: Sun 18 May 2008 22:34
Subject: Re: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: John Metcalf
Hi Jackie and all Members:

I have had the same bounced message notification from Google; in my case it
was a message I sent two days ago to Linda Chapman; the message said
"Delivery to the following recipients failed"
margaretsheffi...@msn.com
Have NO idea what this is all about.

Barb, Ontario, Canada.


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Barb Baker  
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 More options 18 May, 22:50
From: "Barb Baker" <bbake...@sympatico.ca>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 17:50:16 -0400
Local: Sun 18 May 2008 22:50
Subject: Re: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: John Metcalf
AND....as a matter of fact, I don't even see a membership with that name.

GOOGLE is having a bad day/night !!


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linda chapman  
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 More options 18 May, 23:20
From: linda chapman <linda_chapm...@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 22:20:04 +0000 (GMT)
Local: Sun 18 May 2008 23:20
Subject: Re: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: John Metcalf

hello margaret in sheffield [lol]

Regards

Lin


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Roland Edgar  
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 More options 19 May, 22:42
From: "Roland Edgar" <Roly.Ed...@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 22:42:56 +0100
Local: Mon 19 May 2008 22:42
Subject: Re: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: John Metcalf

The Judge had no option. At that time the ONLY sentence for murder was death. However, the "Crown" could commute the sentence if the Home Secretary thought it fitting.

Roland


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