http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland A place for researching Cumberland ancestors, with a definite boost from helpful people and a boost also from old Cumberland newspapers which are being transcribed and posted here. You never know who or what you will find. Just ask ! 2009-11-09T01:44:30Z Google Groups Barb Baker bbake...@sympatico.ca 2009-11-09T01:44:30Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/a3ca34132860459b/6b215ef779fd4173?show_docid=6b215ef779fd4173

This was sent to me today via the Caribbean List on Rootsweb; it may be of assistance to you. <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://surman.english.qmul.ac.uk/">[link]</a> <br> This &quot; Surman Index &quot; includes the names, dates, education and employment information for about 32,000 Congregational ministers. It covers the period from the mid-seventeenth century to 1972, and though it focuses on England and Wales, it includes Congregational ministers serving abroad, provided they trained or served as ministers in Britain.

Barb Baker bbake...@sympatico.ca 2009-11-08T17:48:23Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/532e6db593f2dbc4/667625002a37722c?show_docid=667625002a37722c

Yes it was Roland. I stand corrected. Winnie the Pooh said &quot;oh bother&quot; <br> Barb. <br> ----- Original Message ----- <br> From: Roland Edgar <br> To: genealogy-cumberland@googlegro ups.com <br> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:14 AM <br> Subject: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: CARLISLE PATRIOT, JULY 29, 1843. CURIOUS DISCOVERY.

Roland Edgar roly.ed...@btinternet.com 2009-11-08T16:14:56Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/532e6db593f2dbc4/a34c74486d97cb38?show_docid=a34c74486d97cb38

Was it not Alice as in &quot;Wonderland&quot; and &quot;Looking Glass&quot;? <br> Roland <br> How peculiar !!! &quot;Twould be interesting to know what marks were on the china pieces. <br> Was it Winnie the Pooh who said &quot;Curiouser and Curiouser&quot; ??? <br> Barb, Ontario, Canada. <br> ------------------------------ ------------------------------ --------------------

Steve windebr...@googlemail.com 2009-11-08T13:46:10Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/9acca7f8de3ee392/2ccc8ce4b21e61c6?show_docid=2ccc8ce4b21e61c6

Herbert Stanley Turner medal <br> card - <br> <a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1262&iid=30850_A001583-01374&fn=H+S&ln=Turner&st=d&ssrc=&pid=4927764">[link]</a> &lt;<a target="_blank" rel=nofollow href="http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=View&r=5538&dbid=1262&iid=30850_A001583-01374&fn=H+S&ln=Turner&st=d&ssrc=&pid=4927764">[link]</a>&gt; <br> This is the only record I can find, the WW1 records are not complete as

Mike Trowsdale mike.trowsd...@gmail.com 2009-11-08T13:38:29Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/9acca7f8de3ee392/12890c6b9d6629dc?show_docid=12890c6b9d6629dc

Yes if she remarried her name would be recorded as Turner but any children <br> would be recorded as mothers name Lisgo. <br> Mike <br> 2009/11/8 Petra Mitchinson &lt;Petra.Mitchin...@doctors.org. uk&gt;

Petra Mitchinson petra.mitchin...@doctors.org.uk 2009-11-08T12:14:00Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/9acca7f8de3ee392/d79a786e4fe782ce?show_docid=d79a786e4fe782ce

Hi Pauline, <br> Re Question 2: <br> Once Minnie was married to Herbert Stanley TURNER, strictly speaking she should have used the surname TURNER until she married again, and any children born to her while her surname was TURNER should also have had the surname TURNER. <br> However, occasionally a woman did got back to her maiden name some time after her husband's death, particularly if it was only a very short marriage without any children.

Petra Mitchinson petra.mitchin...@doctors.org.uk 2009-11-08T12:13:13Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/c55384a71fc56bfb/6a57c0d30890a55b?show_docid=6a57c0d30890a55b

Thank you, George, very interesting - there were more details in those articles than in The Times! <br> Petra <br> ----- Original Message ----- <br> From: Geo. <br> To: genealogy-cumberland@googlegro ups.com <br> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:50 AM <br> Subject: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: CARLISLE PATRIOT, JULY 29, 1843. THE CONVICT DOOGAN.

Barb Baker bbake...@sympatico.ca 2009-11-08T11:16:32Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/532e6db593f2dbc4/a5aa7ffb1c76080a?show_docid=a5aa7ffb1c76080a

Ah yes ! Thanks. <br> Barb. <br> ----- Original Message ----- <br> From: Geo. <br> To: genealogy-cumberland@googlegro ups.com <br> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 1:31 AM <br> Subject: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: CARLISLE PATRIOT, JULY 29, 1843. CURIOUS DISCOVERY. <br> No, it was Alice as I recall. <br> Geo. <br> How peculiar !!! &quot;Twould be interesting to know what marks were on the china pieces.

pauline stanley pauline.stanl...@ntlworld.com 2009-11-08T09:43:54Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/9acca7f8de3ee392/2529ae2045f25cbf?show_docid=2529ae2045f25cbf

Hi <br> One of the TURNER families I am researching is <br> HERBERT STANLEY TURNER <br> born 1891 married Sept qt 1917 <br> died the Somme 24th March 1918 <br> Question 1 <br> On his will made 11.dec 1917 he left all his worldly good to his wife <br> MINNIE TURNER nee LISGO <br> of 1Greystone Road Carlisle. <br> would this be near the Fuzehill end or near Warwick Road?

Geo. bar...@gmail.com 2009-11-08T08:50:29Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/c55384a71fc56bfb/5e45f34bb039e983?show_docid=5e45f34bb039e983

Petra, he was already under sentence of 7 years transportation when he escaped. It's unlikely I know, but perhaps he was just shipped out without being tried for subsequent crimes. I haven't been able to find a record of him arriving in Australia as either Lawrence Doogan or Joseph Haynes although it's most likely that he ended up here. I've attached clippings from two newspaper reports. I think you which you may already have transcribed this particular version of the escape, I'm not sure about the recapture article.

Geo. bar...@gmail.com 2009-11-08T06:31:42Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/532e6db593f2dbc4/e8debca26e648566?show_docid=e8debca26e648566

No, it was Alice as I recall. <br> Geo. <br> How peculiar !!! &quot;Twould be interesting to know what marks were on the china pieces. <br> Was it Winnie the Pooh who said &quot;Curiouser and Curiouser&quot; ??? <br> Barb, Ontario, Canada.

annnewyork...@aol.com 2009-11-08T00:22:45Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/2f601fd55a55759f/db73b167647ae95d?show_docid=db73b167647ae95d

In a message dated 11/7/2009 7:16:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, <br> I know, but this boy was considered &quot;slow&quot;; ;what an awful prank to play <br> on a unsuspecting fellow. <br> yes, that is very true.

Barb Baker bbake...@sympatico.ca 2009-11-08T00:16:03Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/2f601fd55a55759f/6371a3c00eb66c87?show_docid=6371a3c00eb66c87

I know, but this boy was considered &quot;slow&quot;; ;what an awful prank to play on a unsuspecting fellow. <br> B. <br> ----- Original Message ----- <br> From: ANNNEWYORK...@aol.com <br> To: genealogy-cumberland@googlegro ups.com <br> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 7:14 PM <br> Subject: [CUL GOOGLIES] Re: CARLISLE PATRIOT, JULY 29, 1843. DEATH FROM EXCESSIVE...

annnewyork...@aol.com 2009-11-08T00:14:27Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/2f601fd55a55759f/217ffab2e6bc6ef3?show_docid=217ffab2e6bc6ef3

In a message dated 11/7/2009 7:07:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, <br> Poor fellow !! What an awful sport in the name of &quot;drink&quot; <br> What is worse are kids still drink like that today and end up killing <br> themselves.

Barb Baker bbake...@sympatico.ca 2009-11-08T00:06:54Z http://groups.google.co.uk/group/genealogy-cumberland/browse_thread/thread/535e0a685965723d/7e4a97099f351c29?show_docid=7e4a97099f351c29

Poor fellow !! What an awful sport in the name of &quot;drink&quot; <br> Barb. <br> ----- Original Message ----- <br> From: ANNNEWYORK...@aol.com <br> To: Genealogy-Cumberland@googlegro ups.com <br> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 6:51 PM <br> Subject: [CUL GOOGLIES] CARLISLE PATRIOT, JULY 29, 1843. DEATH FROM EXCESSIVE DRINKING IN SPORT.